France asked ISPs to prepare temporary DNS blocks for major social platforms

goodcake3963

This is dystopian.

pjc50

During the 2011 London riots, there were proposals to ban Blackberry.

shevy-java

Censorship. I am all for eliminating the antisocial media and the billionaires behind them as well, but I fail to see how censorship fixes anything.

maxwellito

Can we have this worldwide and forever?

Zenul_Abidin

Hahahaha Good luck France. You'd think a 1st world country would know about VPNs but not this one

mosura

“liberticide” Parfait.

sjdh76

Social media permits Broadcasting for Free. One to All messaging. For all other media - radio, satellite, tv, phones broadcasting requires licenses. Why? Cuz Claude Shannon told us if everyone broadcasts on the same frequency noise increases and no one hears anything forcing them into broadcasting at higher and higher power or repeating their messages more and more. Which again increases noise. So Broadcasting has always been licensed and regulated. That solved the Noise problem because people were forced to coordinate use of broadcast spectrum. Social media platforms act as if Shannon doesn't apply. So they do exactly what Shannon predicted. Everyone is broadcasting. No one can be heard clearly. People scream louder and louder. The loudest get locked into arms races. Repeat their messages more and more. At the end of it all Noise hasnt reduced and who gets attention from one day to the next is unpredicatble. And since Platforms dont want to talk about Shannon we are all stuck in some kind of red queen dynamic. People are expending lot of energy. Results are all temporary and unpredictable.

elashri

As someone who lived the first Internet block due to protests with similar demands. This feels refreshing and prove that regimes response to wide spread protests they don’t like is not that different. But please don’t call it European spring.

nomilk

Why not just allow genuinely peaceful protests and take stern police/legal action against all other forms of protest? I don't understand the logic behind cutting access to communications platforms. Seems like an indirect or roundabout way of solving the problem.

lesspassiveobse

Seems like he really wants to limit the spread of videos showcasing the behaviour of the protesters, and their backgrounds... This goes hand in hand with his pathetic speech about how it's all fake news and AI.

gregor123915

It seems French society will soon embark on the path to total VPNization. Once the government gets a taste of blocking Internet resources, it won't stop.

sylware

Real rioters will dive into no-DNS internet communication. Most internet protocols were designed with DNS independence in mind (read the email RFC, email addresses can have IP literals instead of DNS names which is of paramount importance, which I use BTW). Namely, in the end, they will have to switch off telecommunication as a whole... well, if they are not interested in gathering intelligence about the rioters. And then real rioters will have 'mesh communication devices', and then govs will need EM jammers too. Sooo... govs should work on good and wide spread EM jammers instead of trying to to block DNS...

Sopel

title says DNS, article says access, so which is it?

brador

Angleter, Liberté, Pomme de terr

ada-h00k

If that were actually to happen, France would no longer be a democracy. At that point, violence against the state would be entirely legitimate.

dadoum

It's part of a bigger push against individual liberties in France. In a week, we got curfew, military in the streets to control protests, blanket ban on protests in a few cities (but not uniformly applied, illegal far-right protests have been tolerated at night during curfew), an extremely violent police repression (protest control policemen in France have very violent weapons, and those resulted in lost eyes and shredded hands // and that's not counting all of the unjustified beatings in the protest while looting was happening under their eyes elsewhere), the prime minister outright lying on the fatalities, spoke person laughing at the idea of condemning violence from the police, mass arrests, proposals from the party in power to ban social media, to ban the big left party (the second one in terms of voting intentions rn), to tag people in the protests invisibly, to disenfranchise people that will get condemned for anything in those protests… and by the way completely ignoring their responsibilities in anything in this story, blaming a party that never has been in power for all the economic problems in this country. Next years are going to be fun :)

CreepyHunterX

DoH allows this to be bypassed, as they operate over port 443. However, DoT uses a separate port (853) that can easily be blocked entirely, whereas filtering DoH requires relying on SNI or lists of IP addresses.