End of "Chat Control": EU parliament stops mass surveillance

amarcheschi

I would say "end of chat control, for now"

nickslaughter02

> Despite today’s victory, further procedural steps by EU governments cannot be completely ruled out. Most of all, the trilogue negotiations on a permanent child protection regulation (Chat Control 2.0) are continuing under severe time pressure. There, too, EU governments continue to insist on their demand for “voluntary” indiscriminate Chat Control. > Furthermore, the next massive threat to digital civil liberties is already on the agenda: Next up in the ongoing trilogue, lawmakers will negotiate whether messenger and chat services, as well as app stores, will be legally obliged to implement age verification. This would require users to provide ID documents or submit to facial scans, effectively making anonymous communication impossible and severely endangering vulnerable groups such as whistleblowers and persecuted individuals.

astrashe2

Here's a mirror link: http://archive.today/CJlNk

schubidubiduba

Nice to see that democracy can work

Freak_NL

Did that vote pass with a difference of one single vote? Tight squeeze there.

the_mitsuhiko

This will come back because too many EU countries want it.

gmuslera

Its time to start trying to push Chat Control 2.0. With enough money and infinite retries eventually all the bad regulations with a power group behind will end being approved.

varispeed

This is a clear case of a terrorist attack attempt (Chat Control fulfils definition of terrorism fully). Chat Controls would be illegal in Germany. This is sad that this has gotten this far. If they wanted to pass a law to blow up citizens, do you think European Parliament would seriously consider it? It is exactly the same calibre of idiocy. I would expect German authorities to issue arrest warrants and properly investigate this. For context: If terrorism is defined as using violence or threats to intimidate a population for political or ideological ends, then “Chat Control” qualifies in substance. Violence doesn’t have to leave blood. Psychological and coercive violence is recognised in domestic law (see coercive control offences) and by the WHO. It causes measurable harm to bodies and minds. The aim is intimidation. The whole purpose is to make people too scared to speak freely. That is intimidation of a population, by design. It is ideological. The ideology is mass control - keeping people compliant by stripping them of private spaces to think, talk, and dissent. The only reason it’s not “terrorism” on paper is because states write definitions that exempt themselves. But in plain terms, the act is indistinguishable in effect from terrorism: deliberate fear, coercion, and the destruction of free will.

greenavocado

That margin is really small

sailfast

“Congrats all we maybe fixed the problem we created in the first place! Let’s celebrate!” Also - wasn’t this program voluntary? This seems like the height of backslapping. Would have been better if they just sat on their hands and did nothing in the first place.

wewewedxfgdf

Just rename it to something something save the children something something. Instant approval no matter what is in the bill.

elephanlemon

I’m confused by > This means on April 6, 2026, Gmail, LinkedIn, Microsoft and other Big Techs must stop scanning your private messages in the EU It had already passed and started?

ramon156

See you next year!

Havoc

They’ll keep trying.

whywhywhywhy

It doesn’t matter they can just keep trying and paying people off until it gets through. Someone somewhere really really wants this and has the time and resources so it’s an inevitability.

freehorse

So, in the end a big majority of the conservative/liberal faction (EPP) voted against, and the vast majority of the social democractic faction (S&D) voted for chat control. https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/189270 Just pointing this out because yesterday there was the myth around that "chat control is pushed by the conservatives", obscuring the actual political dynamics in the EU about it.

Ms-J

Maybe it is time to make start a prediction market? Any time a scumbag politician tries this again: "Mr. Jones, secretary of communications for the state, TTL (Time-to-live) left. 2 Hours? 1 Day? 1 Week?" It would stop fast. Anyone want to build this? There is a lot of money being left on the table.

dethos

That was a close one. This is getting harder and harder. It is important not to be naive to the point of thinking this is over.