The U.S.‑Israel war with Iran could shatter the United Nations‑led global order

empressplay

'Could shatter'? The Russians already shattered that 4 years ago.

bhouston

Trump does seem to resent the UN in part because of both the influence of Israel/AIPAC in the human rights realm, Russia in the war of aggression realm, COVID reactionaries/MAHA in the health realm and Elon Musk/Christian White superiority interests in the humanitarian realm - no more aid to non white Christians in developing world. It is the perfect storm for the UN. US is done with the UN under Trump. Will we see a rethink if/when Democrats come back and then whipsaw back when Republicans gain power again?

tradertef

It already shattered in Gaza genocide. UN is useless.

djohnston

The UN is an absolute farce.

wr639

It is truly sad how ineffective the U.N. is

juliusceasar

The West said it is ok for Israil to commit genocide and steal land for decades. East said, OK now it is our turn. Both use their veto power to continue their crimes/genocide.

cultofmetatron

could? sir, its already in pieces a this point.

weregiraffe

UN-led is an oxymoron. UN is a place for enemies to talk, not a government.

thisislife2

I read an interesting piece on this war somewhere that claimed that the Iran war is the first war that the US is waging without first politically appealing to its public. Historically, US administrations used to present some justification for a war and politically mobilise its citizens to support a war. And only then used to go to war (even if it wasn't usually called "war" - https://9gag.com/gag/amowD7v#comment ). This is genuinely worrying. It shows contempt towards (American) democracy. Worse still is what it means - is this because of the changing nature of warfare? AI, drones, missiles, missile-shields etc. means that unless you want to occupy a territory, you don't really need to send your army / troops to a country any more to "punish" them. If you aren't going to put boots on the ground, you don't have to worry about body bags returning home and generating (unmanageable) political anger. Thus, politicians (from superpowers) who hold a contempt for the general public may feel that there is no need any more to get the public's approval for a war as these "ungrateful" citizens aren't anyway going to volunteer for a war without a reasonable justification. The Gaza genocide has already shown that unless the victims are "white, blue-eyed blonde Christians like us" ( https://www.newslaundry.com/2022/02/28/europeans-with-blue-e... ) western politicians are genuinely not going to care about such kind of war crimes. Combine that with extremist right-wing views of a new wave of imperialism (that is all about "regime" changes and killing leaders to install puppets) all stemming from the right- in the US, a multi-polar world order doesn't just seem like a "nice idea" but a political necessity.

thisisnotauser

This is written with the genuinely unreasonable treatment of American claims as legitimate and actions as legal, with no consideration offered to the very real likelihood that the American government is simply lying and committing a war of aggression. Frankly, this piece is emblematic of the failure of the news media to hold fascism to account.

jjtwixman

Countries like Israel welcome this because it means they will have free rein to do as they please. And countries like the USA, who built the entire fucking system and benefit from it the most, are now happily dismantling it. It's madness.