The British state has lost the argument

hackandthink 44 points 16 comments August 31, 2026
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jjgreen

An interesting comment by Craig Murray on the related Filton case: This is an extraordinary new legal strategy by which the sentencing for ordinary criminal charges may be radically increased if the judge, and the judge alone, decides there is a terrorist link post verdict. The jury has no say on whether there is a terrorist connection or not, and the judges hide from the jury the possibility of this happening at all. But the public are not stupid and do not live under a rock. The jury sent a note in the second Filton case to the judge Patrick Field asking him whether there would be sentencing under “terrorist connection”. Field replied to the jury that this was “not your concern”. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2026/08/of-judges-ju...

Chris2048

Not sure if I can trust this blog, looking at another article linked from that one: Palestine Action was a legal organisation. Nearly a year later, the government of Keir Starmer declared it a terrorist group – the first time in British history that a non-violent direct action organisation has been proscribed. -- https://substack.com/home/post/p-184498793 AFAIK, they rammed their van through a front shutter, without knowing who might be on the other side; and as police tried to arrest them, one of them hit a female police officer in the back/spine with a sledgehammer. Doesn't sound non-violent to me..

A1kmm

It looks like the original speech to the jury that won this case is published online here: https://greghadfield.medium.com/tony-greenstein-the-most-imp... - definitely worth a read.

bbg2401

Is this the same Jonathan Cook who is ostensibly an agitator spouting Russian talking points? I suppose we'll be linking to The Duran next.

josefritzishere

The West is in moral collapse. Stripped of moral authority it lays bare the lie of colonialism and extraction.

_menelaus

Criticism of Zionism must be extirpated by any means necessary.

metalman

the British state lost the plot some time ago, where once they were capable of making all of there major decisions in public choosing one thing that is strait forward and implimentable, to the inevitable outcomes that have followed a path useing "emergency" and "special" powers for illegal purposes in the service of foriegn interests. It is very heartening to see that the basic British virtues of bieng educated in logic, reason and the ability to describe and discuss the intents and actions of various partys is still present in the general population, but we can take it as a given that the government will try to create a seperate judicial branch for desegnated "terrorists" and there defendors.

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