Startup founders urge U.S. government not to shut off Chinese open weight AI

SubiculumCode

Not in Trump's power.

kennywinker

Under what authority could he block access?

misiti3780

he cant shut them off anyways, anyone can just VPN to europe and download them

feverzsj

The only thing Trump can do is building the US version of GFW, which he knows better than anyone else.

acmnrs

> Almost 200 Silicon Valley companies, including Proton and Y Combinator… The Proton Foundation< https://proton.me > is a Swiss non-profit based in Geneva. I'm not sure which other “Proton” the article could be referring to.

tencentshill

We must all hoard all available models before they get taken down. Is anyone archiving huggingface?

giancarlostoro

I think this would be foolish, a more sound strategy is to focus on critical infrastructure and defense not using models that are "open" but they're really just binary blobs. We have models here in the states like OLMo that could receive more investing to attempt to bring them up to par with some of the frontier open-weight models, removing a lot of these concerns.

chrisnight

> the US can “sanction” companies that engage in intellectual property theft. Peak hypocrisy, US AI companies can train on unlimited intellectual property with 0 rights to it, while Chinese AI companies have to explicitly get the rights to data that isn’t even copyrightable/copyrighted (since AI alone can’t copyright it).

andai

Don't model weights fall under free speech?

bilbo0s

I tell everyone whenever I get a chance, download any open weights models you can as soon as possible. Buy extra hardrives. Borrow them. Do whatever you have to do. But to paraphrase Éomer, don't trust to hope, it has abandoned these lands.

3eb7988a1663

If there were ever a sign I need to get mirroring, this is it. What are the best Chinese models on HuggingFace today? Bucket by ideal RAM: <16GB, <32GB, <96, <256, 256+ Text generation, image generation, TTS, etc

ninjahawk1

The U.S. does NOT have copyright protections on the data that AI models were and are trained on, it was mass theft. Now all of a sudden, the Chinese are stealing from the thieves and we’re supposed to care? No one cares, we just want cheaper AI models that are equally as powerful. They’re all thieves regardless.

intheitmines

How do you ban numbers?

gdiamos

I think we should shut it off. It would force US companies to build open models.

formerly_proven

Illegal numbers 2: Electric Trumpaloo

aslkalska

side note : I wish they had an actual link to the companies instead of just their names in https://littletech.org/membership

npodbielski

So Y Combinator signed it too? But this is HN, Y combinator website. I think I am missing something because I never read any opinion like 'we should ban Chinese models'.

officialchicken

Why jump to complex technical and policy solutions when an Open Weights AI champion trophy, in solid gold, is being requested by the Commander in Thief?

jgbuddy

The point of open weight models is that this is not possible, companies will be built by taking 'contraband' chinese open weight models and marketing as something from the US