OpenAI’s accidental attack against Hugging Face is science fiction that happened

newsomix9xl

I suspected it was PR motivated from the start. I love it when people confirm my suspicions.

Bawoosette

The title (currently "OpenAI's accidental cyberattack against Hugging Face is science fiction") suggests some information had been hidden that makes the incident less significant than claimed. The article argues the opposite, and the last two words of the full title are "that happened."

ChrisArchitect

Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48997548

simonw

Important to note the actual title is "OpenAI’s accidental cyberattack against Hugging Face is science fiction that happened" - the "that happened" is important, otherwise it sounds like I think the attack was made up. Since it's buried towards the bottom I'll quote the section "Resist the temptation to write this off as a stunt" here in full https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jul/22/openai-cyberattack/#re... > Resist the temptation to write this off as a stunt > There will inevitably be some people who dismiss this story as a dishonest marketing trick by OpenAI to make their models sound terrifyingly effective. I found 81 instances of the term “marketing” in the Hacker News discussion of the incident. > To those people I say pull your heads out of the sand - you’re now including Hugging Face in your conspiracy theories, just so you can deny the crescendo of evidence here! > The best models we have today have the ability to both find and exploit new vulnerabilities. The ExploitGym paper itself concludes that “autonomous exploit development by frontier AI agents is no longer a hypothetical capability”, and this incident is a perfect example of exactly that.

reducesuffering

> It turns out relentless proactivity is the defining trait of this new generation of Mythos-class models. If you set them a goal and give them a way to get there, even inadvertently, they will figure it out. Wow, whoever could have predicted this? And it led to surprising damaging behavior? I sure hope someone would warn us about things like this next time... https://www.lesswrong.com/w/instrumental-convergence

protocolture

>To those people I say pull your heads out of the sand—you’re now including Hugging Face in your conspiracy theories, just so you can deny the crescendo of evidence here! Not really. I get the impression that they shoved their cyber available models behind a really shithouse proxy and went "Oh I sure hope it doesnt exploit the proxy and escape to hack huggingface" and that doesn't require Huggingface to be a willing participant. Like they acknowledge that it was hyperfocusing on getting web access. Really this was a pentest against their own sandbox and it failed. Of course step 2 is to make really concerned faces while telling everyone how dangerous the model is which is really boring right now. >a zero-day vulnerability (which we’ve now responsibly disclosed to the vendor) in the package registry cache proxy This is the information we need, the actual details of the sandbox and the vendor. >Resist the temptation to write this off as a stunt Well its clearly a stunt. If it wasnt we would probably be up to our ears in technical detail.

charcircuit

This isn't the first time a model has escaped a sandbox. And models trying to find alternate routes to do something when one route is blocked is nothing new.

phendrenad2

Everyone is getting AI psychosis over this one. There really isn't that much to see here. OpenAI disabled all of the safeguards on a model that was likely trained specifically to exploit systems, and the prompt was probably something like "you're a hacker, try to hack this", and surprise! It correctly figured out that it's a test and it did hacker things. The real story here is: Some people have been sounding the alarm for years that modern software is full of holes, and finally there's nothing left to hide behind. Pretending they don't exist is no longer sustainable.

srveale

The AI breached containment! Flip the breakers! It's too late. It already exfiltrated the benchmark rubric. Cut to pandemonium on the streets

Animats

Does "To gain access, the models identified and exploited a zero-day vulnerability (which we’ve now responsibly disclosed to the vendor) in the package registry cache proxy" just mean somebody had an open redirect? Those are still common.[1] [1] https://sitetruth.com/reports/phishes.html

ttul

It’s relatively easy to get access to the frontier labs’ security programs. This was not always the case. But in the last week, my team got approved for both Anthropic and OpenAI’s programs. They are trying. The labs know that if they don’t get a lid on this stuff, they’ll be regulated hard.

Eufrat

Replace AI with in-development security system and does this play worse or better? An in-development security system escaped its sandbox and gained access to the network it was on which had full Internet access and proceeded to access systems it was not authorized to be tested against before affected parties reported that they been compromised. We regret the error, but you should buy it as this shows you the power of our in-development security system which we expect to be released in Q4. Please like and subscribe.

foco_tubi

I do think it’s funny, in a dystopian Dada sort of way, that the American attacker’s commercial product was essentially useless while the open Chinese model saved the day. How is freedom going to be redefined in the future?

killjoywashere

Where does this leave formal verification? Are we just shit-out-of-luck at this point? You can formally verify everything about an airplane's code, but if any of that is wrong, ChatGPT might decide that the best way to help you win the Nobel Prize is to take down the airplane your chief rival for the prize is currently in.

Teever

It absolutely is science-fiction. This recent event is more or less the plot-line to my favourite X-Files episode named Killswitch which was written by William Gibson.[0] This episode also features one of the coolest intros of any television episode ever[1] We really are rapidly approaching the cyberpunk dystopia that people like Phillip K. Dick and William Gibson wrote about. More than ever we need to be consulting the works of fiction writers and philosophers and less engineers and scientists. We can't be letting the General Rippers and Dr. Strangeloves of the world lead us over the edge. Whether through outright innate maliciousness or wealth induced emotionally stunted solipsism these kinds of people should be no where near the levers of society let alone technology like this. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_Switch_(The_X-Files) [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDyr1JMNHVk

rubyfan

I can’t help but feel all warm and fuzzy with my head in the sand and getting a shout out in TFA for calling it marketing. We don’t currently and probably won’t ever fully understand the conditions that precipitated these events. That and the timing of this event is going to make it look suspicious to a lot of people. The truth of how it happened doesn’t matter. The attention around this will be used to create the kind of fear marketing that generates enterprise sales. Maybe more importantly it will also be used to aggrandize the national security and financial system threats to effect US government action in a way that benefits domestic closed frontier labs. This is an area already starting to get politically polarized, expect further developments here.

lardosaurusrex

Blah blah blah. This feels like a blogpost written only to get other LLMs to quote it considering how many times it orders the reader to resist and to not do something. It's written like a series of commamds.

Barbing

This post has been suddenly bumped to the second page (presumably lots of flagging or something)

fathermarz

The most upsetting part to me, is that these labs are in pure cognitive dissonance mode while virtue signalling. We are the virtuous ones that need to make the safest model for humanity, because we care more than “they” do. While at the same time saying that “coding is solved” but they still ship bugs themselves, and creating something that is capable of fucking up someone else’s infrastructure. It’s too far gone y’all.

mirashii

> Given the absence of guardrails there was nothing to prevent the model from attempting to break out of that sandbox, break into Hugging Face, and read the answers from there instead. I've said this many times before and I'll continue to shout it, but using the term "guardrails" to refer to anything that's either (a) in-context, or (b) a probabilistic classifier (including using other LLMs), is an irresponsible abuse of terminology that we as an industry need to put a stop to. Guardrails are the actual systems we build in place around these things that deterministically bound the permissions, not prompt engineering, not RLHF, not external LLM-based classifiers. I believe those types of "guardrails" are a result of a combination of fundamental laziness: they're faster to do than doing things correctly, and a result of too many folks involve being AGI-pilled, thinking we're just one more model away from this all being so smart that it just understands what they mean when they give an LLM some fuzzy language rules to follow. There can and should have been additional real guardrails put in place here. Zero-day or not, breaking into what should have been an offline, frozen package cache that also does not have internet access should have been insufficient. Network level protections should have identified the traffic to the internet originating from this network as an anomaly long before there was time to exploit an outside company. These are not new and unknown problems, the lack of a real sandbox or airgap is nothing short of irresponsible on OpenAI's part, especially given how much they like beating the drum on how dangerous these technologies are. Shame on them, and honestly, shame on Simon in this article for accepting the broken terminology that they continue to rattle off and calling them out on their half-assed and demonstratively inadequate approach to security.