NHS staff refusing to use FDP over Palantir ethical concerns

QuadmasterXLII

Palantir is under immense economic pressure to deliver this integration at high quality on time. This incentive structure, combined the publicly traded nature of the company, risks corrupting its core founding goals of embodying the evil of Sauron on earth and hurting as many people as it can, as badly as possible. However, Thiel is an extremely competent, mission focussed leader and I agree with the doctors: he will get this program back on track mission-wise without pissing off shareholders too much. (</s>? Maybe? hard to say tbh)

twobitshifter

> The US technology company was awarded a £330 million contract in 2023 to collate operational data, including patient information and waiting lists. That contract value is ridiculous - how many full time staff do they have on this project and what rates are they charging? How can some say ‘operational data collection’ is worth a third of a billion to NHS over the alternatives of using a third of a billion on patient healthcare and actual medical research? This needs an investigation around how this contract was ever approved.

i_love_retros

What were NHS execs thinking signing a contract with palantir? Either they are completely ignorant about what palantir is and who it's owned by (would be very concerning) or they are corrupt and were bribed.

MeteorMarc

It seems a bad idea in the first place for a public organization to award a single company a huge contract for both the software licences and all the consultancy and implementation efforts.

krona

> The US technology company was awarded a £330 million contract in 2023 The total contract value was £182,242,760 over 5 years. For context that's Roughly 0.0002% per year of NHS budget. https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/notice/2e8c61c0-f...

mhh__

A contrarian view although I do dislike contracting with foreign companies for roughly similar reasons: Palantir's technology looks good and I think it probably works. Most things don't work.

cynicalsecurity

Brits: left EU, drifted to US that treats them like crap. A wise choice, what can I say. "We send the EU 350 million pounds a week. Why not send it to Palantir instead?"

mustHaveIRON

fire them, plenty would be happy to have the job

ssgodderidge

For those wondering, FDP stands for Federated Data Platform > Our mission for the NHS Federated Data Platform is to provide a secure, flexible system that connects data across NHS organisations to improve patient care, streamline services, and support informed decision-making.[1] [1] : https://www.england.nhs.uk/digitaltechnology/nhs-federated-d...

tonnydourado

As an interesting linguistic coincidence (or not), FDP is a commonly used acronym in Portuguese, standing for "filho da puta", literally, "son of a whore", but semantically it's approximately "asshole/jerk/dickhead".

tjpnz

Do I as a patient get to opt my medical information out?

shevy-java

Any government that hands over citizen's data to a private entity, even more so one that is primarily foreign, should be investigated for being a traitor to the public. That's a general statement, not solely confined to the Palantir guys. They kind of gave it away by chosing that name alone already - damn thieves ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palant%C3%ADr ).

kevincloudsec

palantir is a US company subject to the cloud act. patient data from 123 hospital trusts is now one mlat request away from us law enforcement regardless of where the servers sit.

beanjuiceII

fire them easy decision

smashah

Why do Epsteinist Companies feel they have the right to not only billions of dollars of citizens in other countries, but also their health record data?

cmiles8

The Palantir brand has become incredibly toxic and, from what folks report, the software just isn’t very good either. A lot of smoke and mirrors hype not matched by substance.

dariosalvi78

> While Louis Mosley, the executive vice-chair of Palantir in the UK, maintains that such campaigns are ideologically motivated and could harm patient care, this is EXACTLY why it is of outmost importance to own those critical systems, and not delegate them to foreign companies, especially if from a country explicitly hostile towards Europe