https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/consensus-policies/kane-t... Success is possible. Well done to all.
derhuerst
previous discussion on the predecessor post, 69 days ago, 547 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550772
Tepix
Vive la résistance! Resistance is not futile.
doublepg23
I've had a .name for almost a decade now and was not aware of it's history. Shame I didn't register on my lastname .name , I had thought it was a much newer gTLD.
dist-epoch
So, turns out Verisign is not the Devil incarnate?
a1o
How does one register a domain under .name ? I can’t find info through search because it discards the dot no matter what I try.
giancarlostoro
> After a long and expensive battle, news just dropped that Verisign is retracting its plan to terminate 22,000 domain names and email redirects. Although they will be closing new registrations for 3rd-level .name domains, all existing domains (including this website) and email redirects will remain indefinitely. This was what I figured SHOULD happen when they did this. Allow existing customers to keep renewing, but nobody new allowed, if a tld frees up over time, reclaim it completely and sell it off. What they were proposing should really be illegal...
kwanbix
Why would they even want to close it? It is probably close to 0 cost tot hem. Or am I wrong?
eks391
So glad this happened. When I first heard, I assumed that all the folks wronged would simply be disregarded even though Verisign was blatantly breaking consumer protection laws (I assume. If it wasn't, those laws are incomplete). The fact that Verisign even tried still makes me upset though. It's really annoying what several companies will do as long as their hand isn't forced due to legal or social repercussions
kinabalu76
glad this got resolved, bummer it was thrown into question at all
charlieyu1
Good for them. I just wish I could register a new .yu domain…
xydone
Certainly nice to know they would've almost certainly proceeded as normal if the concerns didn't blow up online
sparkling
If you are into stories about weird and obscure domain happenings: https://eualternative.eu/guides/bulgaria-bg-private-registry...
zamadatix
Congrats to those wanting to keep their domains! I'm surprised they went with perpetual (well, as much as anything is) support, i.e. allowing renewals and such rather than just letting it naturally expire (the initial proposal was to immediately cease these records at a given date with no clear communication on how they'd be protected or not from re-registering the upper level domains or not).
nticompass
WHAT‽ I let my "first.last.name" registration expire because of the impending shutdown! I did notice that my domain kept working past the supposed shutdown date, but I let the domain registration expire. I'm so mad now! I assume there is no way to get my domain/email forwarding back :( I suppose I could try to ask the registrar, but I highly doubt they can do anything... (Edit: I'm not actually mad, but it was annoying to have to move accounts from my first@last.name email to another one)
walthamstow
> thanks to ... Jim who flew to Bali to make the case to ICANN in person What the heck is ICANN doing in Bali of all places?
bilalabdullahi
They shouldnt this easy to take away tbh
xyst
I wonder how much the midterm elections influenced Verisign in this decision to bend the knee in this "David v Goliath"-esque win. I was expecting for Verisign to take this to court, drag it out, and bleed the opposing party out. I suppose the judges that Verisign lawyers depend on did not get favorable re-election. Ofc it’s probably something less nefarious, and boring. Verisign probably did some basic math and determined that taking this to court with their army of overpaid lawyers was simply not cost effective compared to just supporting 3rd level domains.
asdfasdkljfhkah
Thousands of .name owners nearly became .gone owners. Nice to see Verisign choose the one migration plan every engineer secretly loves: don’t migrate anything.
not2b
I'm glad that the article writer got his domain back, but I wish we had a better term than "grandfathered". The origin of this term goes back to Jim Crow, when to stop Black people and newcomers from voting, many places in the American South imposed a near-impossible test you had to pass to register to vote, but also added a loophole: if your grandfather voted in your county (or sometimes your state), you could vote without taking the test. This was called the grandfather clause.
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toomuchtodo
https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/consensus-policies/kane-t... Success is possible. Well done to all.
derhuerst
previous discussion on the predecessor post, 69 days ago, 547 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550772
Tepix
Vive la résistance! Resistance is not futile.
doublepg23
I've had a .name for almost a decade now and was not aware of it's history. Shame I didn't register on my lastname .name , I had thought it was a much newer gTLD.
dist-epoch
So, turns out Verisign is not the Devil incarnate?
a1o
How does one register a domain under .name ? I can’t find info through search because it discards the dot no matter what I try.
giancarlostoro
> After a long and expensive battle, news just dropped that Verisign is retracting its plan to terminate 22,000 domain names and email redirects. Although they will be closing new registrations for 3rd-level .name domains, all existing domains (including this website) and email redirects will remain indefinitely. This was what I figured SHOULD happen when they did this. Allow existing customers to keep renewing, but nobody new allowed, if a tld frees up over time, reclaim it completely and sell it off. What they were proposing should really be illegal...
kwanbix
Why would they even want to close it? It is probably close to 0 cost tot hem. Or am I wrong?
eks391
So glad this happened. When I first heard, I assumed that all the folks wronged would simply be disregarded even though Verisign was blatantly breaking consumer protection laws (I assume. If it wasn't, those laws are incomplete). The fact that Verisign even tried still makes me upset though. It's really annoying what several companies will do as long as their hand isn't forced due to legal or social repercussions
kinabalu76
glad this got resolved, bummer it was thrown into question at all
charlieyu1
Good for them. I just wish I could register a new .yu domain…
xydone
Certainly nice to know they would've almost certainly proceeded as normal if the concerns didn't blow up online
sparkling
If you are into stories about weird and obscure domain happenings: https://eualternative.eu/guides/bulgaria-bg-private-registry...
zamadatix
Congrats to those wanting to keep their domains! I'm surprised they went with perpetual (well, as much as anything is) support, i.e. allowing renewals and such rather than just letting it naturally expire (the initial proposal was to immediately cease these records at a given date with no clear communication on how they'd be protected or not from re-registering the upper level domains or not).
nticompass
WHAT‽ I let my "first.last.name" registration expire because of the impending shutdown! I did notice that my domain kept working past the supposed shutdown date, but I let the domain registration expire. I'm so mad now! I assume there is no way to get my domain/email forwarding back :( I suppose I could try to ask the registrar, but I highly doubt they can do anything... (Edit: I'm not actually mad, but it was annoying to have to move accounts from my first@last.name email to another one)
walthamstow
> thanks to ... Jim who flew to Bali to make the case to ICANN in person What the heck is ICANN doing in Bali of all places?
bilalabdullahi
They shouldnt this easy to take away tbh
xyst
I wonder how much the midterm elections influenced Verisign in this decision to bend the knee in this "David v Goliath"-esque win. I was expecting for Verisign to take this to court, drag it out, and bleed the opposing party out. I suppose the judges that Verisign lawyers depend on did not get favorable re-election. Ofc it’s probably something less nefarious, and boring. Verisign probably did some basic math and determined that taking this to court with their army of overpaid lawyers was simply not cost effective compared to just supporting 3rd level domains.
asdfasdkljfhkah
Thousands of .name owners nearly became .gone owners. Nice to see Verisign choose the one migration plan every engineer secretly loves: don’t migrate anything.
not2b
I'm glad that the article writer got his domain back, but I wish we had a better term than "grandfathered". The origin of this term goes back to Jim Crow, when to stop Black people and newcomers from voting, many places in the American South imposed a near-impossible test you had to pass to register to vote, but also added a loophole: if your grandfather voted in your county (or sometimes your state), you could vote without taking the test. This was called the grandfather clause.