I post trained a model on Demoscenes

xacky

Demoscenes are a uniquely human endeavour.

vapel

Neat. To me, demoscene was about embracing new technology and using it to express yourself. It's enshrined now and so I find it to have served it's purpose. Look forward, not back.

InvisibleUp

I think you misunderstand the point of the demoscene. It’s about mathematical prowess and the joy of puzzle-solving moreso than pretty pictures. Appropriate uses for AI could be to trace the history of demoscene effects, or to explain how a particular scene works so you can understand it better. Nobody in the scene wants a magic box that solves the puzzle for them.

leptons

>Here is an example, I traced back d/36555 from d/367547 which in turn is derived from d/36467. slop. Dwitter is nowhere near approaching a count of d/367547

grey-area

Misread this as Demosthenes at first. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demosthenes Would be fun to see models trained on ancient figures that you could interact and chat with. Less fun to see models imitating human art, they’re not ready for that yet IMP because they’re too derivative and not creative in interesting ways in the way that humans are.

emptybits

The human side of the demo scene is what I think makes it appealing. Sharing and consuming. A fellow human did that! Coder-as-problem-solver-and-artist. For sure it’s intellectually interesting if AI can generate something novel within demoscene constraints (140 chars or extreme low res or a POKEY chip at 1MHz or whatever) … something humans maybe thought impossible … like a winning move that makes a go or chess grandmaster say WTF. It changes what’s possible. But then most of us (?) still hope the sport/scene/art goes back to human endeavour. I’ve been to parties where demos are running on a large screen, even ones we’ve seen before, and the audience will ooo and aah because a human figured out how to do that stuff under constraint. The magic is lost if it’s generated IMO.

12_throw_away

"I stole some art" great good for you i'm sure that took a lot of effort

velo_aprx

Trust me when I say there are few things the demoscene despises more than using AI to make demos. This is oil and water.

VCFundedGenYer

You miss the point. Demoscenes are for human creations. Leave AI out of it. Don't ruin yet another hobby. The community will never accept what you made.

froh

Demo-sce-nes (dai-moh-ske-nes), the famous geek philosopher...

psenough

congratulations on rediscovering genetic algorithms in procedurally generated art. why learn the math and size coding optimizations that make the effects possible when you can just throw tokens at it and spend time filtering the garbage for the machine? what a time to be alive!

xg15

Not to be confused with training a model on Demoscenes, the little-known cousin 3rd degree of Greek statesman Demosthenes.