Show HN: Qwen3-4B with the AI writing tics trained out

anilgulecha

What's with the very distracting cursors of others?

ac2u

Is it still capable of writing an essay about AI writing tics or has the very means of producing said tics, even when the model is asked to do so to demonstrate, now abitterated?

swiftcoder

Impressed how little hardware is needed to train this.

hashmap

I saw those moving dots and snap-closed the page.

chmod775

Models have proclivities, and many people use the same model. Imagine all books on earth were written by just 5 people - and worse, they could not remember what they had written yesterday. You would quickly get tired of reading the same flourishes and patterns over and over. Whatever style models currently in use have, that's what people are going to be tired of, and it's what they're going to recognize as "AI".

Royce-CMR

Applause earned. Neat results especially out of such a small model. Separately we have overlap between AI slop styles and right for the situation writing styles which this highlights. Using the new CRM example, the clean version looks like a millennial student who rambled on a page, and the AI slop version looks like a draft I could send for PR to corporate managers. I buy the former looks more real, but it also looks sloppy and doesn’t work for most of my use cases. When I was in school, the structured essay style of the “slop” examples was encouraged and I see it continue to resonate in corporate. The cleaned up versions here def have use cases - reviews for example. Main point - different styles for different situations and our AI slop versions vs humanized versions both overlap different areas of the “ideal” we continue to look for.

trilogic

The q4 loops after 16k tokens generated. Great idea though, hope to see more models like it. Thanks. https://huggingface.co/erikkannike/qwen3-4b-deslop-v4/discus...

charv

Side note but the multi-user cursors was a super cool feature, not sure it was relevant to this article but would love to see it on more interactive pieces (a la The Pudding, etc.)

JustSkyfall

It's definitely a slight improvement, but it is still rather obvious that the output is AI-written :(

BoredomIsFun

This is not the first deslop. The true pioneer is this dude: https://huggingface.co/sam-paech/gemma-3-27b-it-antislop . This model is a perfectly usable, full size not-toyish model.

f311a

Why would you support this sort of projects? LLM text should be spottable for as long as possible, otherwise human communication and expression on the internet will be killed.

10111001

Now can I have a model with the AI writing tics trained to the max? I want my boss to know I'm a Good Boy using AI.

BSOhealth

for https://slopwash.com I’ve started approaching this more as an eval problem than something to go post-training for. I’m excited to be trying these new Jev-type models in more of a harnessed approach. maybe some heavy LLM to measure preservation of intent

bschwarz

and needs no system prompt A human would write "and doesn't need a system prompt."

jwr

Why kill the em dashes? They are a legitimate mark — one that I have been using for years. On a Mac, you quickly get used to pressing shift-option-hyphen. Em dashes are typographically correct and should be used.

sram1337

Have you released the detector?

j45

This still scores as 100% AI generated on tools like pangram.com. It stil contains a triple construction, but ranks much cleaner on slop-cop.

nathants

how are bite sized models going to solve bad writing?

Fe2O3

Why are lists of three considered slop? I genuinely use it quite a bit because groups of three feel more memorable, satisfying, and persuasive. (<- list of three right there)

brazukadev

I was excited with the idea then got to the first example and boy that was bad. The second "de-slopped" version has no formatting and is 3 times bigger with the same level of information. This model slopmaxxxed the slop.