I moved my digital stack to Europe

monokai_nl 925 points 548 comments May 13, 2026
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grodes

From Rome to Babylon.

dorianmariecom

not the domain name :)

dangus

> The OVHcloud control panel is a labyrinth: the lifecycle rule configuration is buried somewhere in the documentation, and it involves some work in the terminal. Use OpenTofu/Terraform! Much better than messing with cloud consoles, and then your infrastructure self-documents. I’d also put out one note to any people outside the EU looking to switch to Mistral or really any service: just because they’re a European company doesn’t mean they’ll follow the GDPR if you don’t live there. Mistral is an example: in their privacy policy, they state that they follow whatever privacy laws exist in your country.

emj

Matomo is nice on low traffic, but when we have a sustained rate of 5-25 logins per second and above things become real slow. Using regexps is really bad when you start having problems, but they are fine on low traffic sites. So If like it but it is a headache on high traffic sites. If anyone have an easy solution I would gladly accept it.

YetAnotherNick

> Digital sovereignty sounds like a buzzword until you think Sure now just think and give me the reason. All these moving to Europe post is getting tiring. Amazon follows the same EU rules, if not more, than Scaleway.

iLoveOncall

Using OVH for backups is a crazy choice. They had a datacenter burn down (in large part because it was fully built using wood) and lost all customer data and did not take any action for 6 months after the incident. They're just not a serious company.

__jonas

That lettermint service looks interesting! I was recently looking for something in that price range that covers both transactional and broadcast emails but couldn't find anything in Europe so I settled on Postmark which has been good, this looks almost identical in features and pricing though.

schnitzelstoat

While I agree with him that the US is becoming more unpredictable, I don't think the EU is much better, especially with regards to digital things where they can be worse in some ways. For example, they are discussing restricting VPN access for 'child protection'[1] [1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_AT...

aurareturn

Google Analytics --> Matomo Matomo charges 22 euros for 50k hits/month.[0] Basically, it's unusable for anything other than a hobby site - especially with the number of crawlers nowadays. If you self host for free, you're missing basically all of the good parts of web analytics such as funnel analysis as they lock all of those features being paid subs. [0] https://matomo.org/pricing/

urvader

Great post! Today we just launched an European alternative to Claude Code - Berget Code- https://berget.ai/code

rvz

Small print: With exceptions Why are there exceptions for Anthropic, GitHub and GitLab? > Anthropic is a US company...But it satisfies something else, the sense that the organization building the thing has given serious thought to what it’s building and why. This reads like a weak excuse. Mistral and Mistral Vibe exists and even if you don't like them, there are many non-US harnesses (Qwen code) that are available. > GitHub stays in the picture for one specific purpose: public-facing NPM packages and issue tracking for open source software. First of all Codeberg exists. Secondly, at this stage relying on NPM and the Java/Typescript ecosystem is quite frankly waiting for a disaster to happen. This post isn't absolute on moving their digital stack to Europe as it has not one but three exceptions too many.

TrackerFF

For the past days I've been participating(albeit over Teams) in a conference relevant to my industry (intel), basically startups and established companies showcasing their products to a closed audience of EU gov. officials. One thing I noticed right away, is that all companies were asked "Can we fully host this from within EU or our country" from the various people in audience. Every single one. Many of the startups had slides prepared for this. Definitely a change, because it is not something I can recall being important just a couple of years ago.

data-ottawa

Just a nitpick: 1Password is Canadian (still not European, but not us based, if that’s the issue). I do understand the choice to move all into proton though. Off topic: that’s a beautiful website

frevib

Scaleway has introduced Edge services recently: https://www.scaleway.com/en/edge-services/ No ddos protection yet.

rc_kas

I switched to Protonmail a month ago. It is patently inferior to gmail. Every day I get annoyed by some weakness in the UI that google had apparently just always solved without me ever having to think about it. For example, reading long email chains in the proton UI is horrific. I don't know what google did that made it natural to read and proton does so badly, but it is painful to read these long chains of emails. Another example is log emails from my servers are getting grouped together by Proton. Gmail had sepearated the logs into separate emails in a very natural way. These small annoyances add up and I'm not having a fun time right now with proton.

sisve

A pragmatic article, always nice. I was surprised that gitlab and github was stillton the list. For me moving to self hosted forgejo was one of the easiest transition i had. But i did not have complex CI/CD needs

swiftcoder

While I do think the link highlights are pretty neat, this particular cursor hijack annoys me greatly. Would be nicer to float the link highlights next to the standard cursor.

vovavili

Choosing between two tech-unfriendly regimes doesn't intrinsically strike me as appealing.

fleebee

If anyone else is wondering why no content is visible on the page, it's because it requires JavaScript and a WebGL context.

anaisbetts

Proton Mail not supporting filters for message bodies is brutal, I understand why they don't do it but that really lowers its usability for me. Bummer.

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