GitHub is sinking

oarsinsync

I went to look at a repo on Github today. Clicked on the "xxx commits" link to see the commit history, and got told I've hit a secondary rate limit and need to wait. I'm the only person on this network that would even look at Github, and my connection has a dedicated IP, no CGN.

tbolt

“GitLab - enterprise grade, meaning it’s bloated and confusing but it’ll impress your boss. This could be the choice if you need multiple meetings to make the choice.“ lol!

rvz

I have lost count of how many times something went down on GitHub ever since documenting it on this comment chain [0] and also predicting 6 years ago [1], that going all in and centralizing everything on to GitHub was really not a good idea if you need stability or to push a critical fix and your GitHub actions doesn't work. Now, are you going to finally self host or should we continue to expect another outage on GitHub? This time, there is no CEO of GitHub to help us. It is Copilot, and Tay.ai that are still struggling to maintain GitHub. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37395238 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22867803

summa_tech

It sort of feels like no major open source repository can be possibly left well enough alone. I remember how SourceForge went down the drain, it's a real pity to see same happen with GH. Side note: I read the URL as "dBus hell". We've all been there m8

johnfn

Everyone wants to pin this on the Microsoft acquisition or incompetence but it seems pretty clear to me from the material GitHub has posted that AI has 10xed the amount of code being committed to GH, which has downstream effects everywhere - CI, Actions, code ingestion, everywhere. The author pins it on weird things like MS Copilot, which kind of feels like he’s listing off things he doesn’t like rather than casual favors. This is ignoring the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

iamkrazy

I installed forgejo on my home server and never looked back. The only problem I face is when hosting an app on DigitalOcean App platform, or vercel etc. They only connect to GitHub.

mariocesar

Agree with Gitlab as an enterprise alternative. Beautifully boring and safe to have complex teams and permissions. Also has a good enough Terraform support, and a nice workflow to host docker images

coolgoose

So, what's the actual real alternative ? The one that also supports open source projects ? Ironically gitlab is costlier than github, and not without their faults, but that's "maybe" the only other alternative here, anything else ?

n_e

I'm not sure what to make of the graph. On the one hand the acquisition of GitHub may have caused the availability to be worse. On the other hand, the 100.00% availability before the acquisition looks suspicious, wondering if it's not just the status page being better updated. (I'm aware of the recent availability problems with GitHub, but on the graph the problems start in 2020 and don't seem to worsen significantly)

rbbydotdev

I wasn't expecting to see the outages being nearly the same even before the 2023 ai inflection point

QuiCasseRien

onedev onedev ondev I still don't see this tool when it's about a forge. It is a fantastic tool. Seriously guys, you should really consider it !

phyzix5761

For $5 a month I can host a server and put a bunch of projects on there. Yeah, I don't have a million stars on my repos but it works for what I need and I can give access to whoever I want.

imagetic

Anyone would buckle right now. Microsoft just sucks more at it.

ChrisArchitect

Related: Ghostty is leaving GitHub https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47939579 Before GitHub https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47940921 Days without GitHub incidents https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48012022 GitHub Actions is the weakest link https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47933257 GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47923357

ben8bit

I would not be surprised if AI commits are the culprit. There is no way any service would cope with a constant stream of unfettered commits by sleepless always-on agents. Ironically, this same strategy seems to be what GH/MS (and other big companies) are evangelizing - and therefore dying by their own hand (in a way).

Thom2000

Github still doesn't support SHA-256 git repos ( https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/12490 ) even though their competitors (Gitlab, Codeberg) have that for ages now.

i_love_retros

I think they went too far with AI internally. Complete collapse in quality of internal engineering practices.

sccxy

Living in Eastern Europe has its perks. I hardly ever notice big GitHub outages because of time zone. I'm also happy with how generous their free hosting and actions are.

pelasaco

People used GitHub's free infrastructure for over a decade without complaining. Now AI-generated spam and massive amounts of low-quality code are increasing costs everywhere, and suddenly GitHub is the bad guy for acting like a business. Criticizing centralization is fair, but pretending GitHub gave nothing to open source is just dishonest. Alternatives today, are probably going to be flooded by the low-quality AI generated code tomorrow...