Frozen 2 should be Rated R
peteforde
22 points
14 comments
July 18, 2026
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Discussion Highlights (5 comments)
hhh
Ground your LLM searches and actually look through the script or at least an overview or something. Don’t rely on it being in training data, it undermines your entire discussion
afandian
I was horrified by the literal waterboarding scene in Shrek. Granted it was a year or two before the USA started trying to normalise that form of torture. I don’t know what was in the popular consciousness in the US at the time. But it’s very spooky. Children’s fiction has always had a very dark side though.
Grombobulous
Apparently the author didn’t actually watch the movie carefully. Arendelle was already evacuated. No people were in danger from the tidal wave. Elsa was just saving the city from physical destruction. I think you can also make a converse argument to the author very easily: death and disaster are common, almost universal, so avoiding discussing them in children’s media is over-protective. In any event, I think there’s a point being missed here: the ratings system is a self-regulatory measure and mostly represents a way to classify films as the culture as a whole views profanity. In that respect, they have shifted over time as the definition of “acceptable” has shifted over time. The author is really just lamenting the fact that their views don’t line up with the majority of Western society. And that’s perfectly okay because the MPAA rating system is just one voluntary rating system of many. Parents are free to entirely ignore it, or they can reference the information rating systems from other countries, or third parties like common sense media. As an analogy, the author could be upset if they were from a majority Muslim country and then decided to visit a nude beach in France. They might be upset about public display of nudity in that context. But they are in France and that is what is culturally acceptable in France in that specific public space.
billyp-rva
Some might quibble with using AI for research, but this at least feels directionally correct. I'm not sure if ratings/MPAA is the right avenue to fix it, but the sheer laziness of manufacturing stakes by catastrophe instead of through characters definitely feels like its gotten worse.
recsv-heredoc
Why do you still have a television in your home?