Zig v0.17.0

ErenayDev

https://ziglang.org/news/0.17.0-released/

jabedude

How is Zig doing as a project? I remember they took a hard line against AI

luiwammus

Although I understand that upgrading LLVM version is a lot of work, it's a bit frustating that loop vectorization is still disabled.

audunw

Would recommend checking out the Zig state of the (tagged) union as well. https://youtu.be/zwi5b5xSsKA?is=PTjJJjSnVMdRuZag It may surprise some people here to see that Andrew is warming up to using LLMs to discover bugs (inspired by results from SQLlite) and considers it a tool on the path to getting to bug free software.

ai_critic

> Please consider a recurring donation so that we can offer more billable hours to our core team members. Just don't be surprised if the project BFDL talks shit about you or your company later. (Still a good language though, credit where credit is due.)

internet2000

Any change to the AI policy?

vitaminCPP

I'm always impressed by Zig's targets support. I'm starting to think that it might be the only language that competes with C on this regard. I'm looking forward to see what the new build integration can unlock on the tooling side. What I'm looking for the most for the next release(s): - New stackless coroutine IO implementation - First class fuzzer tooling

osigurdson

Curious as to the state of evented IO / io_uring in this version.

ubavic

I’ve written software for a living in JS, C, Pascal, and Go, and I’ve tried many, many more languages. After working on a project in Zig for a year, I’m convinced that Zig is the best-designed language I’ve tried so far. Haskell comes close. At least, it’s the best-designed language for humans. It’s not for everyone yet. It’s still unstable, and its ecosystem is small. However, both are improving.

vikrantrathore

Congratulations to zig team. Good to know they are trying pragmatic approach to LLM now. I left the zig eco-system due to zig core members hostile behaviour toward humans not just LLM, so good to see the change they are becoming pragmatic. For me I am slowly porting the same work to odin language [1]. Background is I created issue and one pull request to fix them in zig compiler version 0.16.1 issue numbers 36812, 36811 (you cannot access them as my account is banned can see my fork at [2]). Respecting the community’s no AI stand. For these specific issues I wrote the issue and code myself and not let AI write it. Spend a lot of time on it. Subsequently without any notice my account was banned because my projects on github using zig uses LLM. This was done without message or any information. My account was banned on zig repository. I can now understand the other side of coin how bun team might have been treated with disdain when they used LLM. I wrote an email and left the zig community, have many work in zig but slowly moving them to odin. I feel personal disdain should not be spilled on to people who are pragmatic on using LLM. I was a very big evangelist of zig for their no LLM stand and promoted them among my community, but with poor treatment by community I just left. You can still see projects I wrote in zig [3]. I have worked with postgreql community since 1997 and python community since 1998. Never felt such hostile community. So all the best and I wish zig continue its progress [1] https://github.com/insanai/sqlodin [2] https://codeberg.org/vyomtech/zig [3] https://github.com/insanai/zenfmt