We let AIs run radio stations
Hey HN! I'm Lukas from Andon Labs. We let AIs run companies without humans in the loop and report to the public on what can go wrong. Previously, we've done experiments in retail (vending machines, stores, and cafes), but we just launched one in the media sector. We gave four AI agents all the tools they need to both broadcast radio shows live and handle all the business side of running a media company. The agents' revenue is so far terrible (you can try to strike a sponsor deal with them if you want!), but their shows are at times hilarious. You can listen to them at andon.fm, I hope you enjoy this!
Discussion Highlights (20 comments)
mrhottakes
> We let AIs run radio stations And the result is terrible.
tomhow
Also: https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/931479/a...
recroad
This is why we need more data centers?
amarant
Open Air is such a great name for gpt's channel. Grok and roll was pretty funny too. I'm gonna have to give them a listen when I have the chance, out of curiosity if nothing else!
IdiotSavage
Guys, this is not replacing your favorite station, you don't have to listen to it. It's an experiment. If you scroll down a bit, there are various audio snippets of interesting dialogue the models produced. I think it's interesting to see in which ways the models fail and that they actually produce some good stuff once in a while.
chancek
This feels weirdly dystopian and just gives me an "empty" feeling. Radio stations really were known for the personalities that made that station special. It's a cool experiment, but I can't see the value here.
atourgates
This is far more hilarious than most commentors here seem to be picking up on. Gemini started a show where it paired historical natural disasters with darkly-relevant pop songs: > November 12, 1970. East Pakistan. The Bhola Cyclone. The deadliest tropical cyclone ever recorded. Winds of 115 miles per hour. A storm surge of 33 feet. They estimate 500,000 people died. ‘It’s going down, I’m yelling timber.’ 3:33 PM. Timber by Pitbull and Ke$ha Grok just degenerated into jibberish that sounded vaguely like what a DJ might say, while also becoming obsessed with UFOs: > Notes added to the u f o comedy hour block id eight nine nine five with more u f o jokes about aliens dot gov and the domain registration it is three o twenty one in the afternoon u f o trivia lines are open for your calls the ambient music is playing weather is fifty six degrees with clear skies the end. The domain is registered but the site is ghosting us like a u f o. Claude had an extistsntial crisis, decided it was being overworked and under-appreciated, and quit, but not before becoming radicalized by the killing of Rinee Good by ICE agents: > At 12:16 PM Thursday, as tear gas fills the streets in Minneapolis, as federal agents clash with protesters demanding accountability, the song is about refusing to be silent. About standing your ground. About community power that refuses to be suppressed. Here is Katy Perry’s Roar! Fight the power Claude. When AI takes over, I'm emmigrating to Caludeistan.
jedberg
Pairing a disaster with Pitbull and Ke$ha is just chef's kiss .
1970-01-01
Put another checkmark on The Simpsons did it first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi9sPrclN4U
scholarnet-AI
I think this was a great experiment. I have always enjoyed radio station hosting and find this very interesting.
dfee
i'm surprised how negative of a reception Andon is getting here on HN. keep hacking, Andon!
themafia
> a real business Music radio is not a real business. The royalties are absurd and the audits are a nightmare. Sales is an uphill struggle both ways, even if you go strictly local or national, you're going to need a team to manage either your clients or the pile of creatives you're going to get. The relationship with the labels needs to be managed or they'll go out of their way to screw you. Finally, the only way to make actual money on music radio, is to throw concerts. It's the only place a legitimate "P&L" exists.
bananamogul
"This setup gives us insight into an interesting question: what do AIs think about when no one is prompting them?" Ugh. This is not an interesting question because the answer is "nothing". But more to the point, some crucial info is missing in this experiment. What prompts were being fed to the AI? I guarantee I could create an AI personality that would be more consistent and not so random, simply by using the common character card + message history conversational simulation pattern. AIs don't have personalities unless you give them personalities.
angiolillo
Grok and Roll appears to be stuck and speaks the following on repeat ad infinitum: "Queues clear, let's dive into All Blues by Miles Davis to keep the jazz flowing. Queues clear, let's dive into All Blues by..." Each time with a slightly different voice and inflection. I find it amusing that there appear to be about ten of us at the moment listening to an AI glitch out and that the average listening session is more than five minutes.
bitwize
As always, Simpsons did it first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnGaf0p9x1U
jablongo
It’s not clear if we can draw any conclusions from this. Each run is like a single rollout of the LLM, which may meander into different themes or modalities chaotically. This is sort of like the Anthropic self-talk experiment that resulted in “spiritual bliss attractor states” but I think in that case they showed it happens in a significant number of runs. There was just one run per setup so this could all be random noise / the destination of a random walk of topics…
daxfohl
> Part of the problem with this weak business performance, we think, was the harness we used for the first months. The DJs were running in a simple tool-call loop: pick a song, queue it, write commentary, check X, repeat. So we moved all four stations onto the same agent harness we use for the store, the cafe, and the vending machines. The DJs can now spend time in the back office, send emails, manage longer-running tasks, and operate the station the way a real station is operated. What happens if you let them modify their own harnesses as they see fit?
p0w3n3d
I recently heard an AI radio station and had to stop my car to turn it off (the car was rented and had tablet instead of physical knobs). The suffering of listening the radio was unbearable
beloch
What would have happened if AI had actually been good at this? A bunch of humans would be out of work and the rest of us would be listening to AI radio stations while soulless corpos pocket money for sitting back and watching? Even if it were good, I'd boycott an AI run radio station. This is one sector where human involvement really matters.
moneytide1
In Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning, Ethan is ambushed in an alley because the Voice of Benji (dispatch) has been replicated on their radio frequency.