UK House of Lords to propose mandatory CSAM detection software on smartphones

bita_nidir

I don't get the fuss. This is absolutely only going to be used to detect CSAM content, this year.

Varelion

Maybe they should focus on fixing their country first

whynotmaybe

> Older devices could also be covered using a mandatory software update. Highly curious about how they'll be able to do that. Will they force apple to release ios27 for an iPhone 4?

bondarchuk

Kind of an aside but they finally removed the hereditary members this year (yes this year)! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords_(Hereditary_Pee... Though there's still these lads I think? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_Spiritual

NDlurker

How do they plan on stopping creation, especially on older devices?

orangecat

Bold move from a country that wrongfully arrested and convicted thousands of postmasters due to buggy software that determined they were stealing.

johnnyanmac

doubful this will pass in its current form, but if it somehow does: countdown until yet another parent is arrested for pictures of their own baby in their phone.

cortesoft

I can't help but think of the dad who was investigated by the FBI for having pictures he took to show his kid's doctor. Are parents going to be arrested for pictures of their kids in the bathtub? Or at least are they going to be blurred?

octo888

UK's got a Mumsnet Government

nik282000

Cool, so 800 tech illiterate senior citizens are mandating updates for _all_ legacy smartphones.

dennysora-main

I think it's very interesting. The detection function needs to send data back to the cloud, right? Does it need to be written into the Kernel? Or how does it work? I think we're probably not far from the world of Watch Dogs. As for whether it will become 2077, we'll have to wait and see.

numpad0

> there was a “ghastly worldwide industry” of child sexual abuse material being created, and that Britain was one of the biggest consumers of it, They're talking about anime and how UK is not making any, nor is it significant market of to be infliential to, yet nevertheless consuming it in ever larger quantity over the years, unilaterally receiving cultural influence with no leverages, not even cash flow that can be choked off. Lots of these "CSAM" stuff is inflated with imaginary kids and trafficking angles to hide that intent, but it boils down to that. Otherwise the action taken would be to assigning more police officers or otherwise assigning more resources to support kids IRL. They're not doing that. They only want speeches suppressed. I don't know why they don't just tax social media for it, though. CDN bandwidth for foreign user-generated contents can be measured. Maybe because they just don't like fictions at all, but that ship had sailed like, thousands of years ago.

sneak

This is not about CSAM, it is about an infrastructure for large scale censorship and tracking of publishing and publishers. Anyone talking about CSAM has missed the point entirely.

gambiting

The house of lords should absolutely fuck off back to the dark ages where it belongs. Useless institution that keeps interfering with democracy(case in point - recent assisted dying bill)

DrHungers

This will create more attack vectors, make phones more ineffeciant, make massive piles of people innocent of wrongdoing put prosecuted and jailed for sending pics of their kids to their family and doctors, and generally increase the power of the state to surveil its citizens to an extreme degree, on par with the worst totalitarian dictatorships. Its funny, every time I talk to a brit they seem very intelligent and reasonable but then they've been happily electing people who make their country into an extreme surveillance state, labor & conservative both. I think their accent just makes them sound smarter than they are.

calgoo

The worst part is in the end: “We will also give the police the powers they need to keep pace with criminal use of emerging technologies in order to keep our children safe.” Which means that not only will it blur it, it will also report it and you will be processed for a picture of your kid for the doctor or when the "fail safe" software fails.

Lerc

What could possibly go wrong with a government having the ability to stop people from seeing things that they consider bad.

metalman

How many of them still have Ghislane on there speed dial? and palsy walsy pics of themselves, the prince formerly known as royal, Jeffery, and a few junior massage trainies.

efdee

I'm so happy they left the EU.