Tidal AI Policy

throw_m239339

That's fair, allow AI slop but tag obvious AI slop as such. Hopefully they add an option to hide detected AI slop, something I wish Youtube had for instance.

cnobody

Funny, Tidal want pay royalties on it.

mc32

I like what I see from their policy. They accept that it’s part of the industry landscape and also say it’s not monetizeable. They will likely revisit and revise their stance as things change. I strongly agree on labeling the generated content.

pier25

Good now add a setting to hide all AI content.

jorisw

Allow AI, but require labeling as such, and demonetize. Would love for YouTube to follow suit on this

riddley

Interestingly, this is a 404 if you're logged into Tidal.

fxwin

> Tidal will accept AI-generated music. > Tidal will hold AI-generated music to a higher standard of content integrity. We will not tolerate AI-generated music that exploits an individual’s or group’s music, name or likeness, deceives listeners, or diminishes the quality of our service. I think this is a very reasonable approach, and probably also the best way to treat AI-powered copyright infringement as a whole. Just like we don't penalize artists for consuming content unless they produce actually infringing content, we should set the same focus for AI systems. > Starting today, AI-generated music will not be monetizable. We are only in the beginning of the era of AI-generated music. Don't really agree that this follows from the stated principle here ("... ensuring royalties go to original works produced, written and performed by people"), but will definitely help with spam etc.

jeremyberemy

Am I the only one getting a "Page not found"? Edit: Nevermind, see riddley's comment. That's what I get for being logged in, I guess?

akshaydeshraj

A very reasonable policy, prevents AI Slop from flooding the platform due to misaligned creator / consumer incentives

sph

> Tidal will accept AI-generated music Tl;dr. Another one bites the dust.

techpression

Love that they don't pay any royalties for AI music right now, unlike Spotify.

elicash

> Tidal defines AI-generated music as music that is wholly or substantially generated by generative artificial intelligence. I think this needs more clarity. I can think of a lot of different ways AI is used in music today as a part of the song generation process and not sure whether or not this definition would apply to it. They specifically mention developments in "text-prompted generation" but if anything that confuses the issue more, for example what about training on specific music. This isn't a comment on how expansive or narrow the definition should be, just that they need to spell it out more to allow for consistent application (to say nothing of enforcement). If someone uses ChatGPT for lyrics, but writes the instrumentals themselves, does this policy apply? I genuinely have no idea.

gwbas1c

I'm a Tidal subscriber, something like this is needed. My Tidal "feed" is full of new releases that are clearly AI-generated. They use the same artist name as artists that I really like, but the music is clearly not from the artist as advertised. I have no problem with AI-generated music, I just don't want someone trying to spoof the artists I am interested in.

Invictus0

How are they going to detect the AI music?

dude250711

A tide of slop.

keiferski

I really hope someone makes a music platform in the future that is verified as human-made. Music is about connecting to human emotions, not poor facsimiles of it. Tie it to in-person concerts and it might actually work as a business, as well as logistically – maybe the company can be a record producer in disguise and physically meet every musician they host.

preetham_rangu

The detection problem is genuinely hard. Even desktop AI agents I've been working with recently can control Spotify, fill forms, navigate apps — all indistinguishable from human interaction at the OS level. If that's hard to detect at the application layer, detecting AI-generated music at the audio layer seems like a cat and mouse game that Tidal will struggle to win without self-reporting from uploaders.

butlike

> Starting today, AI-generated music will not be monetizable. AKA: We will take the value, if any, AI-generated music gives, but we will not be paying royalties. This is a contradictory statement. How does the AI-generated music give value if the generated content is inherently worthless?

postalcoder

AI music has taken over small businesses like coffee shops and restaurants. AI music drives me nuts because, to me, it still is very much deep in an uncanny valley. That said, I can't blame the businesses because they are all (dis)incentive driven. The music industry has stepped up its efforts globally to crack down on small businesses that play copyrighted music. They actually hire people to go into these places and spot violations. People blame social media for the death of the monoculture but I think music rights holders have done a fair share of the damage to themselves.

hmokiguess

I wonder if we are gonna see an emerging market where musicians are hired to provide support for AI music farms, I feel like gig musicians can easily cover/learn to play anything without much trouble This would then become something similar to how legal tech where a license is required to practice law relies on a few lawyers sitting as a gate after the AI