Third editor fired in Elsevier’s citation cartel crackdown

ChrisMarshallNY

I am not arguing against the facts expressed in the piece. This is not an area in which I have any expertise. However, I am a bit uncomfortable with the pithy language used. It's possible (likely, even), that the fired editors deserve the pithiness, but it's still a bit weird to read that kind of prose, in a scientific context.

shae

After decades of dealing with Elsevier, Springer-Verlag and the rest; I hope they all go out of business.

bpt3

3 down, thousands to go. This will continue until Elsevier and their 3 or 4 peers are removed from the academic publishing process entirely.

amarcheschi

It'd be nice to check whether some llms still have "memory" of the paper she has deleted

ArbriT

Is it just me or this makes me feel less guilty for using libgen all these years

mlmonkey

It will be interesting to see how Goodell's citations drop going forward.

fewgrehrehre

A fun and interesting article! I must however, take the time to be the ever-sensitive snowflake and highlight a troubling trend in this person's other posts. He seems to have some anti-trans leanings[1], refusing to gender people correctly and all that (and certainly not pushing back against comments which declare "M to Fs are psychotic bullies who would kill all of us to maintain their sacred illusion". Not to imply that one must rebuke every unkind thing in their comment section, but I hope you can understand that it is illustrative of his audience.). Now I'm no proponent of death threats or double standards, it's just a convenient way to highlight a lack of respect. He will misgender you if he does not like you, and he does not like any delusional transwomen[2]. He's also quite concerned about Canada's population. The capital-W White population specifically [3]. Note that this is presented separate from later graphs about TFWs, so I don't even think he has the right to hide behind that paper-tissue-thin shield. He is quite sad to see the Great White North get a little less white. I am not saying that Canada has managed its immigration well, but I do not believe that he is overly concerned with those matters. I'm not here to litigate his arguments, I have other things to do with my life. He has his principles, and I have mine. I'm certain he'd be happy to talk for hours about the transwomen and the Indians and all the topics polite society cowers from. His anti-Zionism and dislike of the Rothchilds, I am certain, comes from a strongly-voiced anti-Imperalist lense. [1] https://www.chrisbrunet.com/p/this-phd-student-at-brown-univ... [2] https://substack.com/@chrisbrunet/note/c-244102564 [3] https://www.chrisbrunet.com/i/175390557/6-white-population

kspacewalk2

The funny thing is, if the guy wasn't quite so greedy with this racket, probably no one would notice. Surely if the number of your publications and citations shoots up exponentially and surpasses those of much more well-known scientists, folks are bound to ask questions. I wonder if this got out of control or whether he really did think it's a good idea to collude his way to such prominence.

beambot

Sayre's Law: Academic Politics Are So Vicious Because the Stakes Are So Small Maybe universities, tenure committees, and funding sources should stop measuring academics by vanity metrics such as H-Index and publication counts. And don't get me started on the tendency toward "minimum publishable units." That said, abusing power as an editor deserves a special place in hell...

cess11

Elsevier has a history of 'promoting' successful millers to more or other journals, so they can 'drive growth', as it's sometimes put in IT, there as well. https://forbetterscience.com/2023/10/24/elsevier-choses-pape... This type of corporation is nasty and should not be allowed to exist, but thanks to people like the Maxwell clan, they do. For now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnmFTvlrsOo