The bootstrapper's EU stack for under €10 per month

embedding-shape

What about DNS buying/hosting? Seems it's not mentioned (neither is emailing besides transactional/marketing). I'm currently on DNSimple but been trying to replace it with some closer to home (Europe) alternative that still offers the same level of possible automation as DNSimple does, anyone know of any that fits the bill?

satvikpendem

On Herzner add Dokploy (Honduras, I prefer this even if it's not European) or Coolify (Hungary) to get a Vercel-like PaaS experience for free. Any others that are good?

byyll

I don't think that's an alternative to US hyperscalers. Scaleway is the closest thing there is. Replacing a single service with 10 others is not really an alternative in my opinion.

thinkindie

this website seems a clone of https://european-alternatives.eu/ Either way, one of the most critical parts is that many are still hosting on Google Cloud, AWS or Microsoft, therefore you are not 100% insulated from Cloud Act.

gitowiec

I thought I will find GetResponse there, but they are fucking greedy!

pickleballcourt

Haven’t used herzner but heard good things

redfloatplane

I know it's boring to comment and say that something sounds like it was written by an AI, but this sounds like it was written by an AI. I am often especially suspicious of these listicle recommendation sites because it's pretty cheap and easy to have dozens of sites doing some list which just so happens to mention a specific service that 'quietly' does a 'surprisingly good job' of some doodad. This kind of submarine advertising feels like it might be quite common. Although in this case it seems they're trying more for a 'sponsorship' thing - 'our website got X views in Y days, sponsor us, random company!'

FlxMgdnz

Thanks for listing Hanko as EU-based authentication provider. To be upfront about this, we’re still on AWS (Frankfurt), but "EU-owned" hosting/data regions will be available very soon.

zuzululu

any good reason to serve the EU? I am observing through various SaaS and support tickets and EU seem no average way more finicky and stingy than North American customers not to mention the absurd level of EU regulations you have to follow just to serve the same product at a much higher cost. It's like a bad mix of culture (bordering on arrogance and pathological in some bad cases) and over regulation. I always advise clients to avoid the EU at launch and focus on UK if they really want to do a test run and encourage them to focus on East Asia instead. You'd think Europe is this affluent and sophisticated customer demographic but again and again from data I see it couldn't be further from the truth.

kevinkatzke

Happy to see my friends from Hanko on the list, they are great and you should really try their privacy-first authentication.

hollow-moe

Have a look to OVH VPS their offers are real cheap and if you're not scarred of openstack they have this too.

CodesInChaos

> passkeys, the modern way to handle login that gets rid of password resets entirely Doesn't that just trade password resets for passkey resets? Or do they permanently lock out users who lose their passkey?

BrunoBernardino

As someone who tries to "buy local", I have been a happy customer of the following recommended services for many months or years: - Hetzner (Cloud, Box, and Object Storage) - Brevo (for transactional emails) - Mollie For monitoring I use and recommend UpDown.io, which doesn’t seem to be listed there.

jviotti

You are missing https://unikraft.com/pricing . Amazing compute, 2 instances free. A German company. Offers EU hosting too. Just a happy paying user myself

zkmon

Interesting. Wonder if they have competitive pricing on GPU instances.

conqrr

For a bootstrapper's computeless log search solution using Duckdb and s3 compatible store, use Blobsearch ( https://github.com/amr8t/blobsearch )

haarolean

Creem is just a MoR layer on top of Stripe. Not really an EU alternative.

amelius

But what laptop do you access it from? Apple is more a service provider than a hardware vendor these days. You can't realistically own Apple hardware without periodically connecting to Apple.

gyanchawdhary

Fremdschämen

grebc

I read this, and the list is fine. But the title made me think VPS + self hosting of services like xmox for email/transactional email… you know since we’re bootstrapping and all.