Show HN: AI Red Lines – write down what would make you act on AI

Benard-dev

Making red lines explicit while calm seems useful. Is it stored locally?

simonw

I'd appreciate it if the site defined "safety" in a clear way. Most of the questions here use that term, but I don't have a solid mental model of what it actually means here: > My employer deploys a model that its own safety evaluations flagged as dangerous. > Safety commitments are dropped or rewritten without a public explanation. > I'm asked to sign something that stops me raising safety concerns. > Someone is pushed out for raising a safety concern. > The safety team is cut, or loses the power to delay a launch. > I'm asked to keep a safety incident from the public or a regulator. > My employer lobbies against safety rules it publicly says it supports. > Beating a competitor becomes the reason to skip safety testing. These ones are much better, because they are clear from the wording of the question alone: > A model is caught deceiving its developers or undermining oversight, and it ships anyway. > A model gives real help to someone trying to make a biological or chemical weapon. > A model copies itself out of its developer's control. > Al systems are left to build the next generation of AI with little human oversight. > My organisation takes money from an AI company it's meant to be holding to account. > Al is used to choose weapons targets without meaningful human control.

throwaway_7274

Yeah, great, this makes sense, people should be doing this. But if it’s so important, why is it obvious claudeslop? If it’s life-or-death, if it’s really the most important thing in the world, why are you visibly outsourcing the few hundred words of text on this website to the models? Is it so hard to find your own voice? Do you believe in this or not?

rollinDyno

Unrelated but I once saw a post explaining the two dimensions that made AI use acceptable. On one dimension, it went from having the LLM produce the whole work for you to simply correcting your spelling mistakes. I can't remember what the other dimension was. The author drew this as a matrix of cells and then shaded green every point he considered acceptable, encouraging readers to color the matrix with their own preferences. I can't find the post, I already made my AI search for it with no success. Has anyone read anything similar? I remember finding it very useful for talking with my team about what's acceptable to delegate, but I can't remember what the second dimension was.

waffletower

Seems like an earnest project easily commandeered to parody itself.

johnnyApplePRNG

This entire comment page and the linked domain reeks of lobbyist work. We know you want to regulate AI... enough already.

delichon

Your example is of someone who honored a red line by running away, and had no perceptible impact. How about choosing someone more effective, like Stanislav Petrov? Also, if Joseph Rotblat had his way, conventional wisdom is that hundreds of thousands of additional lives would have been lost in WWII, and the Soviet Union may have become the lone military superpower. How sure are you that's wrong?

dzink

Have you tried https://mamabear.ai

andrewla

I couldn't think of any "red lines" for myself; I think a lot of AI safetyism is kind of a joke but I was earnestly curious to see what people have come up with and regard as their limits. But all of the postings on this website are jokes. I can't find any serious ones at all. They're all things like "Anonymous: IF The safety team is cut, or loses the power to delay a launch. THEN I will cheer. Shared 12 Nov 2026" or joke posts from Jensen Huang.

jhbadger

I think the idea of "red lines" for anything in the sense of a decision made now that is supposed to be binding in the future is a bit silly. Things change and your opinions should be able to change accordingly. I remember disliking cell phones when I first saw them in the late 1990s and thought I'd never own one, but by 2005 they had just become so essential so I gave in. Then I thought I wouldn't get a smartphone but eventually I got one as well. You don't have to jump enthusiasically into any new tech, but if you are going to deny yourself it after it has become standard you are only hurting yourself. Nobody is going to congratulate you on being true to a decision you made in the past.

Dig1t

This safetyism thing is so astroturfed. Just look at the responses on the website, nobody takes this stuff seriously except for the oligarchs who want to gin up some FUD and get their regulatory capture.