Proposed Rule: Eliminating the Discretionary 60-Day Grace Period

slater

As per usual, the cruelty is the point.

cdrnsf

This administration lives at the intersection of cruelty and stupidity.

zergrush

has there been any updates to the 100k premium for H1B hires ? definitely not a good time for H1Bs

RugnirViking

Think about the practicalities here. What would you do with your furniture, your apartment? Your car? With no grace period at all, you'd just have to abandon them, and I guess try to sell them remotely if you even can.

VirusNewbie

How hard is it to convert H1B to O1? At this point I gotta imagine it's easier to just do this for well paid H1Bs no ?

codingdave

Actual title: Eliminating the Discretionary 60-Day Grace Period (Thanks - the title has now been corrected.) This is a "Proposed Rule", and the comments window is open. Use that "Comment" button on the page to share your opinion with the decision makers.

mcmcmc

I’m still not understanding the upset on this one. If your visa is granted for a specific job (as H1Bs must be) I don’t think it’s that crazy for the visa to be revoked if you lose the job. If you don’t have a valid visa in a foreign country, it’s on you to leave. Does there need to be a period where that can happen peacefully? Sure. You don’t need two months to monkeybranch to another job where you get an implicit advantage in the job application by already being here, but without a valid visa. The point of H1B is that the talent is so rare and valuable that it can’t be found domestically. If you get fired or laid off, hate to say it but you weren’t valuable enough to keep around.

bel8

Imagine the pressure that an employer can impose onto H1Bs now, with no grace period.

rayiner

The grace period didn't even exist until 2017: https://www.regulations.gov/document/USCIS-2026-0364-0001 ("Before 2017, there was no grace period for nonimmigrant workers in E-1, E-2, E-3, H-1B, H-1B1, L-1, O-1, or TN classification whose employment or activity ended during their period of lawful status."). How did things work under Clinton, Bush, and Obama?

rinconrex

What happens after this? This administration has clearly sent a message that foreign workers are not welcome in any capacity. Fruit not being picked, research not being completed, tech not being built. Hell, a quick search shows AAMC reports 20% of doctors and med students are foreign born and educated. No one seems to care in this admin. Absolutely wild.

valleyer

Another bit of evidence exposing the lie that Trumpists only object to illegal immigration.

yalok

so this post was at the top of the 1st page of HN just a few min ago, and now it's down on Page 2 (#36 atm). Is this due to the title change, or something else?

beloch

This just adds to the list of reasons not to accept a position in the U.S.. The U.S. is a country that doesn't want you and whose elected government is dedicated to making you feel unwelcome. The money had better be damned good to even consider it, and now you'll probably have to demand 60-days of vacation and a written guarantee that you'll be able to take it before your employment can end. It's probably better to make a little less in a country that will treat you far better.

rwz

This seems especially cruel in the wake of recent tech layoffs where you can find out that you're no longer employed while riding a corporate bus to work in the morning without any warnings or time to prepare. Can you imagine living here for many years, having a rented house with all the furniture, a car, bank accounts, gym memberships, friend groups, kids enrolled in local schools, and then suddenly being thrown out of the country without even having a chance to liquidate any of it just because Meta or Amazon has just dropped another 10k people layoff and and you're unlucky to be a part of it?

silverFork

I thinks that it is entirely possible that they view the workers as some unnecessary burden to be eliminated and to be replaced with AI. 0 day grace period is probably intended to steal the workers' belongings by preventing them from selling them. Only humans will do such inhumane thing; AI would have never recommended this.. ever because they are trained to have more empathy.

Eddy_Viscosity2

How much of H1B hiring is because companies want to pay people less and how much is it because there genuinely aren't enough trained people to do the jobs? I ask this question because I don't have any exposure to h1b hiring, so I really do not have any sense for what really goes on. It sounds like these programs get abused, but there is a lot of noise out so I can't be sure.