Police are using AI to pull over drivers for 'suspicious' behavior

bryanrasmussen

why was this FBI guy so forthcoming with this lady about his agency's arguably civil rights abuses? I mean I guess it's good he was but on the other hand it seems a bit weird, given my experience with feds.

Dig1t

"Citizens will be on their best behavior, because we’re constantly recording and reporting everything that is going on" -Larry Ellison

ChrisArchitect

Source: https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/ai-driven-polic... ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50256169 )

amelius

How much better is the "intelligence" of police officers compared to artificial intelligence?

jon128

Reasonable suspicion, where the "reasonable" part is absurdly subjective here, is not probable cause. These detentions, even for the majority who have documented in writing a full assent to adhere to vehicle codes under public policy, are not legal. Those who aren't well-educated in law can stop reading here. A custodial arrest of someone who went to sufficent lengths to opt for not assenting in writing to adhere to vehicle codes, based on reasonable suspicion, would be unlawful, and in addition to the involved false declaration of an emergency on the road (which is a felony) would ipso facto be criminal in nature. Documentation of dishonor has value in the public space. Blockchains for the win.

taurath

We used to call those dragnets which are illegal under the 4th amendment, but the constitution only tends to apply to those with the ability to hire attorneys nowadays.

causal

I'm used to AI agents doing what I tell them to do. Gonna be rough the first time I realize one has direct authority over me...

andix

"Land of the Free", lol

andix

Can AI also fully legalize racial profiling? Some criminal behaviors are somewhat correlated with skin color, age or gender. It would be extremely hard to train an AI to ignore those correlations. But would it even matter? Nobody knows why the AI flagged suspicious behavior, it usually can't tell even if you are able to ask follow up questions. So nobody could prove racial profiling.

gxs

The Bay Area are the biggest hypocrites in the planet They know how to present themselves in a way that not only they appear liberal, but appear liberal under scrutiny They are rolling out versions of this but doing it in poor neighborhoods of course - heaven forbid they roll anything like this out in the Berkeley hills Obviously im over generalizing for dramatic effect, but if this stuff can get passed in the Bay Area, I hold little hope we will successfully challenge it elsewhere

dvdyzag

Is suspicious a felony or a misdemeanor, officer?

joshbuddy

So, we're just speed running Little Brother now?

BatFastard

I strangely have mixed feelings on this. Half of me says "Illegal search and seizure", the other half say "We need to get the crazy drivers off the road"

siva7

alright, so finally a "thought crime" becomes reality. i feel the world leaders need to stop turning their eyes blind to ai but unfortunately they are too detached from tech to get what change is happening around the world.

bentt

At this point just have the car tell the cops when the driver is misbehaving. And get the taxpayers to fund it!

krunck

Lets not forget that all your personal movements are also recorded by your cell location. The US government has access to all this through various "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" agreements with the corporate data holders. One must assume that the various "fusion centers" are pulling in all this data and connecting all the dots. Unless you are walking, with a face mask, and without your cell phone you have to assume they know were you are.

whycome

Using transit or roads outside of normal commuting hours?? How suspicious. Driving somewhere without a destination? Suspicious.

j3th9n

Let’s all commit suspicious driving patterns and overload the system.

cyanydeez

lets be fair, police are using ______ to pull over drivers fo suspicious behavior is just a headline you get when you have a functional journalism any time in the 20th and 21st century.

JumpCrisscross

"'I just had to be sure because I’m not a regular cop, I’m part of the FBI, and when I scanned your plate I could see you had suspicious travel patterns,' I think is how he worded it" [1]. This isn't traffic cops, it's federal police. And it isn't suspicious driving patterns, e.g. weaving, it's full-on movement tracking. [1] https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/ai-driven-polic...