Peta releases video showing experiments on infant monkeys at Univ of Washington

saidnooneever

maybe peta can offer themselves as human test subjects to study disease and medicine etc., and their kids. It might sound harsh but i really do not know how they envision people developing this type of thing without such tests. ofcourse its not great, but afaik we still can't do much better. Perhaps if universities and their medical centers got proper budget they could grow humans and human parts to test on. theres many things like artificial wombs and 3d printing of tissue etc. but afaik these will be hugely expensive and way outside their budget. Or does peta prefer only big pharma to be able to do research and sell simple medicines for ludicrious prices (as we've all seen them do already). Wonder what other people's take on it is. i also wonder why they dont fight for human rights instead of animal rights. i mean, sure animals are essential, and sentient, and know what is suffering and incarceration, but so do many humans around the globe, even in 'developed' countries. maybe they should put them in a childrens' hospital full of kids with incurable diseases and ailments -_-. i've been there and seen _that_ and its a ton more depressing and horrible and a few monkeys suffering (which is still horrible but magnitudes less i can tell u). try looking one of those kids in the eyes and tell them you are advocating for something that will prevent their chance of a cure how slim it might be. im quite sure u need to be pretty unempathic to be able to do that to say it lightly.... this kind of advocating causes litterally violence to some of these researchers... completely bonkers.

dyauspitr

I honestly don’t care about this and I’m a person that cares about animal welfare immensely. But what I care about more is scientific progress and if this is the only way we can do it right now then I’m for it. I do feel sad for our very close relatives though and their pain must be an akin to or pretty close to what we feel.

RIMR

The average factory-farmed animal is treated with even worse levels of cruelty than this, for a far lesser return, and I still eat meat because it is the path of least resistance. The benefits of animal research for medicine, even if "there is no clear evidence that the experiments led to changes in public health recommendations" for any one specific lab, are too great to throw away over a bleeding-heart animal welfare story. I don't celebrate the cruelty; in fact, I think things should be far different, mostly for the current state of factory farming, but I am not an idealist who thinks that the suffering we bring these animals invalidates the benefits we bring our own species through these experiments. There are some recent breakthroughs that make it way easier to do testing without animals, including biochips that use human cells for drug testing. I greatly support this and hope it spares more animals from experimentation, but for certain domains like one highlighted in this story (neurological research), I am willing to accept that animal testing is still necessary.