Pause OpenAI Now

andsoitis

> Sam Altman cannot be trusted. I have been writing about that for a long time. Ronan Farrow’s reporting backs that up. Discussion of Ronan Farrow’s New Yorker article (900+ comments): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47659135

dgellow

Agreed, but not just pause. OpenAI very likely committed multiple felonies. The company should be under investigation, it’s insane that didn’t happen as soon as we learned about the hugging face hack

lrvick

OpenAI and Anthropic are equally evil imo, but what bothers me more is how many tech workers actually think you need any product of either company to accelerate any engineering goals. I just racked some consumer GPUs in my garage (6x r9700s), cranking 24/7 pumping 20M+ tokens a day towards my goals building compilers, custom operating systems, reproducible build debugging, kernel hardening, novel confidential compute tech... harder problems than anyone I know using cloud LLMs to solve. I have still never paid for tokens AND have session privacy.

Der_Einzige

Gary Marcus is perennially wrong/dangerous/stupid, AI is really good, and a pause is terrible for everyone. Sam Altman can be a bad person (ask his sister about him!) and deserves to go down yada yada without us needing to try to kill the goose which is about to fling us into a golden age.

andsoitis

> In essence, I read this essay as requesting a hall pass to let their company’s AI run amok Disagree. Even if OpenAI didn’t exist, this problem would still exist. It is best to assume and guard against rogue AI, which is what the essay is about.

VariousPrograms

What is the realistic endgame for people who want to pause AI development? Ban OpenAI, and crown Anthropic as a golden child of safe AI development? Surely no company is "trustworthy" with this power and all future AI capabilities are dangerous, so all AI research needs to be paused everywhere, requiring the equivalent of a nuclear non-proliferation treaty between the US and China. So post-treaty we're trusting the US and Chinese governments, their military, and the billionaires closed tied to them to not to continue developing the magic thinking machine that can solve any problems, wins every battle, and is the crux of the economy? With the US track record of breaking much less significant treaties? I'm not pro or against pausing AI development. I just don't understand what the theoretical stop button looks like.