New Apple TV 4K

splix

I actually waited for it. My years old Apple TV died some time ago so I had a chance to use the Android TV that comes with the TV itself. And it's so terrible. I don't understand why even YouTube app is much better on Apple TV than the Android TV one

cherioo

$299, up from $129 of the last gen. I am not sure how many people would still buy this?

embedding-shape

> Siri AI is available in beta in tvOS 27.2 and requires the owner of the home in the Home app to have an Apple Intelligence-enabled iPhone or iPad running the latest software version and have Siri AI turned on and set to a supported language. > Certain Apple Intelligence features that rely on server-side models are subject to daily usage limits. Expanded access to such features will be available for a fee in the future. Not only will the TV not be "supercharged by Siri AI" on its own, as it requires some other device to actually run Siri AI (?!), you also might end up relying on it and suddenly be blocked from using it if you use it too much (?!?!). But fear not, they'll ask you to pay up, to continue to use this feature they advertise as the main feature of this new device.

eknkc

Has anyone used Siri AI? I upgraded to iOS 27, which is fine I guess. Tried a couple siri prompts and decided it is horseshit as it always has been. Never touched it again. Guys maybe just let others register themselves as system agents since you are obviously not capable of creating anything related to AI. Provide the absolutely minimum effort Siri as default and be done with it.

Scubabear68

$299, ouch. And a heavy emphasis on voice capabilities, which my kids love but I generally hate. I don't want to have a conversation with my media. I have had many Apple TV generations and want to love it, but I really don't get where Apple is trying to go with it. The whole "Apple TV" app really confused the hell out of me, and I wonder if this is continuing that trend. Or maybe it won't matter because this is just ridiculously expensive.

blitzar

I really hope this time its different and siri doesn't suck ... but then at the end of the day when i am watching tv I don't really need a llm to assist me. As far as I can tell its a hardware bump and some supercharging price bump.

goalieca

I have an AppleTV because I never want to plug my TV into the internet. I just need a box that can stream videos. Does it need to have AI? No. It really doesn’t. I wish Apple just dropped all this junk and figured out what they want that TV app to do.

baggy_trough

Doesn't seem worth the upgrade at that price. Siri still stinks in general.

fnordsensei

I don’t know if I feel like the headline features improve much over the last version. But I might be in the minority of people who don’t talk much to their TV.

wdb

Too expensive, if you ask me. $129 was already pricy but this is just too much. But would it support passthrough audio for that money lol

xyst

Apple trying so hard to make Siri relevant. I don’t think it’s worth a $299 premium (up $170 from previous gen). I would skip this generation of Apple TV and buy previous generation on a third party marketplace when people inevitably offload the current generation.

Finnucane

Our old one still works fine. Nine years.

dawnerd

The existing Apple TV was already way overpowered for a media device. Who was complaining about their Apple TV being slow?

freediddy

I have a pre-4K Apple TV, and I have the latest version of Apple TV 4K. I cannot at all tell the difference between the two at all. I think one even has 32 GB and I've never run out of space. That's about 10 years of "advancement" in Apple TV where it doesn't amount to anything. And yet I have 4 of them in total because they are much better than the built in apps and I don't trust the TVs to connect them to the internet. It's basically CarPlay for my TV but does an excellent job because of the consistent interface and good apps. I am in no hurry to get this latest version.

Reddit_MLP2

yea, this is a non-starter for me, and that is not even considering the price bump which is too much. I do not want ANY internet connected devices in my machine with far field microphones just listening. There needs to be a hardware switch disabling them. I would settle for software settings that completely disables them though as I almost trust Apple. almost... I likely will just look for yesterdays version.

browningstreet

That remote still sucks. I would've bought it if there was a new remote. New Apple TV seems to make sense if you're installing a lot of new sound equipment, and love Siri. If neither of those are true, not sure what's on offer.

Brendinooo

I'm a little surprised at the price (especially when their newly-announced HomeView is the same price, and it has a screen!). I love this product: it's the one box I can (reasonably) trust to not be mining my viewing habits for data. I have two older ones and was looking to get something that supported 4K but waited for this to come out. $300 might be a decent price if you use it for all of the things that it can do, but if all you're doing is launching streaming apps, $200 was already on the high end for that. $300 seems...a bit much. Anything I'm missing here? The silver lining is that this product is almost certainly still in the "pay money then forget about it for a decade" tier, which is nice. I'm also wondering if/how the "add up to four homepods" feature compares to "getting a soundbar". In the other thread for this someone noted that the HomePods only work with this box; so if you're running a game console that's no bueno. But apart from that, if $600 on an Apple TV + two HomePods mini delivers something comparable to a ~$500 soundbar, that's a decent value proposition.

siliconc0w

Every other vendor has injected so many obtrusive ads and spyware Apple has won this product area by default.

qoez

Everyone is talking about the price but $300 does not seem that much for what this offers imo.