Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

no_shadowban_3

These flowers smell like shit. If you don't use Linux or MacOS yet, why?

stndef

I think we need to be a bit more careful and considerate around the use of language around physical abuse, or abuse in general, and using software. Saying that here as someone that isn't fond of the Windows experience these days, but the two are not relatable.

WithinReason

Heartbreaking: The Worst Company You Know Just Made A Great Point

mdrzn

Why are there so many "slop" animations in this article? They don't actually provide anything useful over the already explained text, and the "click to restart" is incredibly distracting.

Macha

It’s quite common for companies to work their way up to the line of the most user hostile version of their product that users will tolerate. Especially with software where they can just go flip a switch and turn off whatever feature did cross the line but keep everything they gained by inching up to the line, which seems to inevitably result in things like the condition of windows 11. I think the only way this gets better for consumers is if customer response more often insisted further roll backs than just the last straw if a company crosses the line. The risk of losing other gains at the expense of the user should discourage companies from trying to go full on maximum extraction. Sadly the only recent cases to achieve that level of success were the reactions to Unity’s install pricing and wizards new OGL. Mostly companies get away with “oh my bad, this final step was just an experiment, we’ve rolled it back for now” to try again later, or just toughing out the negative reception and hoping their competitors come along for the ride too so users have no choice

ptero

Microsoft lost its way much earlier than 4 years ago. It abused users at the time of Netscape wars and forcing Internet Explorer down people's throats. But they hit an infinite gold mine with government adoption and for the last 30 years no amount of bad engineering was able to shake off government use. Windows 11 is bad? Yes, but did you try Microsoft Teams? The only way to force Microsoft into "users matter" engineering is to get govvies off it. My 2c.

i_cannot_hack

Pulling the emergency break promising to improve a situation will in general not build any trust unless the mea culpa also includes: 1. An analysis of what allowed the situation to get out of control to begin with 2. Systematic changes to prevent it from happening again Otherwise you will just be in the same situation again in 3 years. And neither is included in Microsoft's messaging here.

mexicocitinluez

Every product manager at the company in the Windows and MS office products divisions need fired. They have made so many unforced errors in recent years its hard to imagine serious people currently inhabit those roles. Office.com, the cornerstone of Office, is now just a prompt. A prompt!!!! They make it near impossible to manage a small/medium sized company with the unending tweaking, moving, and rebranding of every single portal in that product. It's absolutely wild that a company as big and important to the business world as they are is playing this fast and loose. I'm quite frankly embarrassed for them.

wewewedxfgdf

Windows 11 should run on ANY PC. I am customer and I absolutely hate it that they have restricted the machine that Windows can run on. If they don't fix this sort of anti customer garbage then all their words are pure horseshit.

Havoc

Their office subscriptions are also going up in price at. Crazy rates. Giving Stiff competition to food price inflation All because it has some AI stuff on it that I don’t want.

xdkyx

Did they really fix the taskbar? I still cannot change it to either side of the screen, am i missing something?

DarkmSparks

Replaced all our windows machines with mac silicon and linux 6 months ago. No one is going back no matter what they do now.

steveharing1

Finally they realizing the power of linux is cannot be taken for granted

c0l0

Thanks, but no thanks. The only winning move, long-term, is to excise everything this wretched company makes from your life as vigorously as possible. It's been true 20 years ago, and it's even more true today.

greatgib

I don't that their organisation even know how to do things well. It's not in their DNA to not fuckup their users. But that being said, I have a good laugh at their announcement because you know they will spend money to try to make the thing nice, everything they can at their own cost, to be able to win the users back and lock them, and then they will start to fuck them up again once they feel confident enough.

1vuio0pswjnm7

Love the quiz at the end It's remarkable that computer users are paying $139 to give data to Microsoft through an ad-supported "operating system" Back in the day (generally) only OEMs paid What is the $139 for

zabzonk

> injected advertisements into the Windows 11 Start menu's "Recommended" section. These showed up labeled "Promoted" and pushed apps like Opera browser and some password manager nobody asked for. And the Start menu was just one surface, they also placed ads on the lock screen, in the Settings homepage hawking Game Pass subscriptions sorry, I have never seen these supposed ads in win11. the lock screen does display icons for things like local events and weather, but i consider them useful at best, and innocuous at worst - it's not like i spend much time in the lock screen. i have never seen an ad in the start menu or settings. am i specially blessed, or is there a bit of (wrong) groupthink going on here? as for microsoft accounts, i find having one (i have 365 subscription) more useful than not. day to day it doesn't irritate me at all, because i never see it. mostly, i find win11 pretty good - its fast, smooth and the UI is about as good as UIs get.

tjungblut

Sorry Pavan, I'm happier with Fedora Atomic and Bazzite now.

pharrington

Desktop and laptop sellers need to end their abusive business relationship with Microsoft, and start selling systems with a Linux distribution. They'll save costs while selling a better product. People who know they need Windows will always have the option to install it themselves.

snozolli

Lucky me, I'm stuck one or two releases back. Windows Update fails every time it tries to upgrade. I wasted a couple of days trying to troubleshoot the problem, reading their completely unhelpful logs, but gave up. I sure wish we could just have Windows 10 back. My machine was so much faster.