Meta and Microsoft take steps to reduce employee usage of Claude AI

rfgplk

So they're going to fall even further behind? Buying puts on Meta and Microsoft, or even better might give it to Fable to handle it for me

gonzalohm

This may be seen as radical. But I think AI tools should be paid by the employee. After all, you should know how to do your work without AI.

Benard-dev

This is not surprising. Every big lab blocks competitor tools for internal use; it is a data governance thing, not a quality statement.

waffletower

I should probably know more about Claude's TOS, but it is probably a mistake for these companies not to leverage the plausible deniability of their usage and turn it into a massive distillation resource for their own models.

bpodgursky

Limited to $10,000/employee/month lol. This is just to cut off a few people doing absurd things with low ROI. Don't read too much into it.

MisterMunchkin

My company took away my Claude because it’s too expensive. I feel like there is a reckoning coming. The accountants are finally realising the cost of token maxing.

ashleyn

If you were wondering the same thing I am - it's not about skills loss, quality, and less about money spent. It's more about frontier AI shops dogfooding their own models.

techdmn

I assume that at shops that both employ engineers and are developing an AI product, internal usage is not about improving productivity, it is about improving the offering. Of course they want employees to use internal tools.

rietta

Maybe I am slow here and everyone is using Claude with credits at max use. But isn't Claude Teams like $25/month per developer for ordinary use? What the heck of these guys doing that makes it get that phenomenally expensive for their use cases? These are presumably well capable engineers who started to use this as an aid right not just throw Fable at everything and loop to the max?

raincom

Large companies will take the same route as Meta and Microsoft. Small players will go for local LLMs with the right hardware.

VladDanGeorgesc

It may bei cost efficient, but is it wise? We use not only the big US models, but also Chinese ones. This way we can compare who makes the difference. Simplified: Knowledge comes before economic aspects.

rangledangle

We've reached the era of "good enough" ai, it seems. The truth is you don't need the best model in most cases.

vld_chk

If true, it is a huge blow to Anthropic’s revenue stream. IIRC it was reported that the quarter of their revenue comes from just two clients and as the ex-Meta guy who left this July, I am convinced that Meta must be one of the two.

krauses

In other news, the CIA is limiting it's employees from submitting top secret information on KGB owned and operated websites.

simonw

This story is re-published from https://cybersecuritynews.com/meta-microsoft-claude-ai/ (it credits that source at the bottom) but with the internal links removed. The cybersecuritynews.com news one simply republishes details of a story published by The Information. At least they have the decency to LINK to that Information story: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/meta-microsoft-work-... ... and of course the Information story is behind a paywall.

jiraiyasarutobi

Muse Spark 1.3 Max is quite good for almost all of my usecases and its cheap.

rdtsc

CEO's nephew showed him how good the Chinese models are? I am only half joking, I heard something like "my son or nephew did this cool thing with $X so we'll take $this_radical_step because of it" enough times over my career.

irishcoffee

Wait, what? We pretended this tech would save the world and it won’t? Oh man.

throwitaway222

> monthly AI spending limits have reportedly been slashed from $100,000 per employee... what. I can see a team of 20 costing 100k per month (but rare), but per person?

antisthenes

That's a shame. Microsoft's W11 quality disaster might have actually been improved with a frontier model. Or maybe not, but the bar was set pretty low that going all-in on AI might have been worth it.