macOS 27 is so buggy

dbg31415

Man... I know this post will have some real "angry old man shaking his fists at the clouds" energy, but this latest OS update, even 27.0.1, is just so freakin' janky. Spaces... the windows don't layer right. So I can't always move them to a new space. When I bring up the various desktops, some windows just freeze at the original size and refuse to move. Similarly, the desktop previews for other desktops don't work. They start out working, but as soon as I resize a window, the previews in the virtual desktops go blank, so I can't see which desktops have files and applications running. Also, probably the most annoying, my laptop (M4 Max MBP) battery life is just gone from what it was a week ago. It used to last a day; now it's maybe 4 hours -- I've noticed the fan is on a lot more which is likely the cause. The laptop went from always being quiet, cool, to being warm when I pick it up. And yeah, I've tuned all the settings, fixed what I could, but Spaces and virtual desktops are just broke. As someone who has been using virtual desktops for as long as Apple has had this feature... man, it's just a total drain on productivity to try and shoehorn everything into one desktop. I hate it. Might as well be using a computer that isn't my own. And as someone who has used Mac for 40 years at this point... I'm just not used to Apple breaking this much. They were sticklers for detail, and that's why I love their products. But this latest OS feels untested. Do they only care about users using one application at a time? Feels like they just gave up on advanced users. Anyone running Spaces / virtual desktops would have noticed all these bugs. The last OS added a ton of bullshit transparent glitter; this one broke how I use my computer. It sucks knowing that even Apple can't get things right today. Flat out just sucks. Wish I could just roll back. Left waiting for them to maybe, hopefully, someday put in a patch to fix all the stuff they just broke. Just maddening.

rythmshifter

iOS 27 has also been very buggy. Both releases are frankly embarrassing for Apple. I really really hope it’s not happening because of vibe coding…

pmkary

Somehow it fixed all my problems.

sedan_baklazhan

So what exactly is happening to the software industry? Why are we getting buggier than ever releases of major Operating Systems? For some reasons I can’t stop thinking about “AI”.

cousinbryce

Clearly this is sabotage, someone alert the judge of the change

lapcat

The submission title has been editorialized, contrary to HN guidelines. The actual article title is "Buggy & Laggy Mission Control, Spaces, & Stage Manager in MacOS 27 Golden Gate? Try These Tips".

seam_carver

iOS 27 fixed some bugs but added more. Sigh.

avazhi

Yeah I’m never leaving Sequoia.

swozey

I genuinely cannot believe you can't remove the 11gb llm they're installing and if I didn't just go through 6 months of Tahoe running like trash before I reinstalled macos for the first time in my life I wouldn't even think of installing it.

zamalek

Seems like the slop reaper has business with macOS too.

prymitive

It’s because nobody gives a fluff anymore, seemingly. It used to feel like products were built by people who use them and take pride in them, but for a last few years it’s the opposite. Google bought Fitbit and the app started becoming less intuitive and readable. It’s continues enshitification where the goal of products is to capture market and extract profits first, rather than solve user problems. Maybe some products got too big and that causes a disconnect, but if feels like there’s too much of that to explain it this way. For example all modal windows on iOS have a close button on the right, except the weather app that has a close on the left.

newswangerd

This is one thing I hate about maintaining any software in the Apple ecosystem. I have to install all these crappy updates so that I can make sure they didn't break my apps.

WalterGR

2 days ago with 361 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49894005

ngruhn

Not really macOS 27's fault but I almost got DoS'ed by Spotlight after the update. I had some random repo clone containing a decompression bomb PDF. The macOS update retriggered Spotlight indexing. When it found that file, memory usage went to the moon.

gnachman

This week I discovered that reloading an outline view leaks the disclosure buttons. The bugs you don’t see are as bad as the ones you do.

Zealotux

The window manager is driving me CRAZY, whenever I have an app in fullscreen and click on another app (not in fullscreen), it shows me the wrong screen, the preview in Mission Control is glitchy (the fullscreen app appears on top of all other windows). I've tried a restart, reopening all apps, it's just broken on my end. That, and a myriad of other small glitches I'm too lazy to document.