Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

irthomasthomas

Beats opus 4.6! They missed claiming the frontier by a few days.

nickandbro

Wow, if the benchmarks checkout with the vibes, this could almost be like a Deepseek moment with Chinese AI now being neck and neck with SOTA US lab made models

swingboy

Exciting benchmarks if true. What kind of hardware do they typically run these benchmarks on? Apologies if my terminology is off, but I assume they're using an unquantized version that wouldn't run on even the beefiest MacBook?

esafak

K2.5 was already pretty decent so I would try this. Starting at $15/month: https://www.kimi.com/membership/pricing edit: Note that you can run it yourself with sufficient resources (e.g., companies), or access it from other providers too: https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k2.6/providers

lbreakjai

I have a subscription through work, I've been trialing it, so far it looks on par, if not better, than opus.

verdverm

https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.6 Is this the same model? Unsloth quants: https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Kimi-K2.6-GGUF (work in progress, no gguf files yet, header message saying as much)

pt9567

wow - $0.95 input/$4 output. If its anywhere near opus 4.6 that's incredible.

greenavocado

I pray the benchmark figures are true so I can stop paying Anthropic after screwing me over this quarter by dumbing down their models, making usage quotas ridiculously small, and demanding KYC paperwork.

elfbargpt

I've always been surprised Kimi doesn't get more attention than it does. It's always stood out to me in terms of creativity, quality... has been my favorite model for awhile (but I'm far from an authority)

game_the0ry

There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.

nisegami

The choice of example task for Long-Horizon Coding is a bit spooky if you squint, since it's nearing the territory of LLMs improving themselves.

Banditoz

If the benchmarks are private, how do we reproduce the results? I looked up the Humanity's Last Exam ( https://agi.safe.ai/ ) this model uses and I can't seem to access it.

mariopt

Really excited to try this one, I've been using kimi 2.5 for design and it's really good but borderline useless on backend/advanced tasks. Also discovered that using OpenCode instead of the kimi cli, really hurts the model performance (2.5).

oliver236

isnt this better than qwen?

simonw

Accessed via OpenRouter, this one decided to wrap the SVG pelican in HTML with controls for the animation speed: https://gisthost.github.io/?ecaad98efe0f747e27bc0e0ebc669e94... Transcript and HTML here: https://gist.github.com/simonw/ecaad98efe0f747e27bc0e0ebc669...

dmix

I'm pretty Kimi is what Cursor uses for their "composer 2" model. Works pretty good as a fallback when Claude runs out, but definitely a downgrade.

cassianoleal

If only their API wasn't tied to a Google or phone login...

cmrdporcupine

Running it through opencode to their API and... it definitely seems like it's "overthinking" -- watching the thought process, it's been going for pages and pages and pages diagnosing and "thinking" things through... without doing anything. Sitting at 50k+ output tokens used now just going in thought circles, complete analysis paralysis. Might be a configuration or prompt issue. I guess I'll wait and see, but I can't get use out of this now.

m4rkuskk

I have been testing it in my app all morning, and the results line up with 4.6 Sonnet. This is just a "vibe" feeling with no real testing. I'm glad we have some real competition to the "frontier" models.

XCSme

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