Jolla phone – a full-stack European alternative

spinningslate

Jolla has announced a new phone using its Sailfish OS so providing a full-stack European alternative to the Android/Apple duopoly.

zaggynl

What does full-stack mean here? Phone is fully produced in Europe? Software and online storage fully provided by European company? edit: I want this phone, I have reserved a slot in the coming batch. Just posing as an average Joe here, someone who does not host their own storage, calendar, contacts, phone tracking, remote wipe, the "free" features Google and Apple are known for on their phones.

Markoff

huge notch and huge bottom bezel with mediocre Mediatek Dimensity 7100, all this for 650EUR with specs worse than 200EUR phones, that's like 450EUR for software, a bit high surcharge...

ranguna

Will it have USB C with DisplayPort alt mode?

mytailorisrich

> a full-stack European alternative It is absolutely not. More than misleading title. People are jumping on this "EU sovereignty" thing band-wagon and milking it for all it's worth.

oytis

The most important question missing from the FAQ is whether bank apps, government ID apps, etc. will work with this phone.

pjmlp

Nokia N900 was really great, Jolla has some of the former team people. I only jumped into Android after my Symbian phone died, and by then Symbian Belle, with QT and PIPS (PIPS Is POSIX on Symbian OS), it was already shapping great. That Burning Memo was really a downer.

stuaxo

I bought the pre-order thing, but not sure what to expect - I guess to get an email at some point so I can buy it..

raphman

HN discussion from four months ago, including reports from people who have been using Jolla phones for some time (e.g., me): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45785840

dev0p

I mean 600+ euros is kind of a steep price, doubt I'll ever consider buying one because of that alone. Also, as an italian, Jolla reminds me a lot of the word "Ciolla", which you can only guess what it's a slang for. That doesn't help.

bluebarbet

This project has been going for years. Good to see it lives on. IMO there's a paradox with these privacy-focused mobile solutions. Just as with the expensive flagship corporate devices, the massive price tags suggest an assumption that we are doing all our computing on mobile. That's now the case for most normies. But for anyone who really cares about their privacy (not to mention sanity), there's a better solution available: repatriate most of one's computing to a laptop. At which point all these mobile devices become unjustifiably expensive. Hence the paradox. PS: downvoting a reasoned opinion, apart from being lazy and toxic in any community, does not constitute a rebuttal.

latexr

I hate the camera bump trend. I don’t need a super fancy camera, just give me something half decent and flush with the device. The original iPhone SE was the last time I enjoyed a phone’s design.

sailorganymede

I noticed that the orders hasn't bumped up that much since this was shared last time. Not really sure I see the growth here is showing a lot of demand for a European smartphone - although I could totally be wrong given the geopolitical situation.

poisonborz

Other comments have links to more details, but in short: do not support this company. It was to be expected that a lot of corps will want to milk the term "EU sovereignty" and good willed naive people who don't look inside the packaging.

goodpoint

The OS is proprietary.

haritha-j

This looks really cool. Orange, black and white being inspired by scandinavian design felt like a bit of a reach though.

grigio

if it doesn't run GNOME Mobile or KDE it isn't an alternative

this-is-why

This is the third phone on the HN main page. I’m happy to see this flurry of work at real competition in the market, but I hope the companies can survive and respond to CSVEs.

_imnothere

I heard and read negative things about them, do they actually ship?

jaggs

This looks interesting. https://e.foundation/e-os/