I'm a Proton employee and I'm breaking my silence

npc99

if true, seems like a kiss-ass who can't be trusted

cowlevel

Reddit is soon to be login walled, but the summary of this post is that Proton's not that bad because random people said it wasn't. No actual information is provided.

cromka

As someone commented: > The only reason I'm with Proton is security. If I wanted new features, and AI in my email I'd just stay with Gmail. They objectively do it better. Same here and I'm looking to move at the end of my subscription.

anramon

I'd think there are a LOT of interest behind closed door wanting to shut down projects like proton.

bitbasher

I'm sure this person was told to post on Reddit using their personal account (as the original 404 article showed). You can't trust anything ... anyone ... says at Proton. That leak shattered any faith anyone has in the company. It's clear the company places profit above customers. The CEO calls their own employees losers. The CEO thinks writing code by hand is like using a fax machine in 2026. Fuck Andy, and fuck Proton.

hecturchi

ProtonMail mangles emails in a way that they are impossible to download as they were delivered to their servers, meaning MIME signatures cannot be verified, because the emails are altered. Old issue, affects also web UI not only bridge: https://web.archive.org/web/20240221213617/https://github.co... Would you use a secure email service that breaks signature verification on received emails? There were a lot of smaller and bigger things along the years, but realizing I could not verify authenticity of signed emails for apparently no reason pushed me over threshold to leave them.

crmd

I cannot relate to being emotionally invested in my employer to the extent that “feeling the need to break my silence” crosses my mind. Siemens is a great company but am I weird for turning my phone off at 4 o’clock.

Havoc

>some of the criticism hurts me because it described a company I don't recognize Haven't really done much research, but this resonates - the vibes on these recent news reports felt very off. It felt engineered frankly, which makes me quite suspicious in a world where everyone seems to be pushing for encryption backdoors. The one email provider famous for strong encryption suddenly gets a broad PR across entire media landscape? ...zero evidence but the whole thing just feels off AF

ivandenysov

Any alternatives folks can recommend? I myself am considering switching from protonmail to fastmail. I’m looking for something hassle-free and “not google”.

iammjm

This whole post looks like PR damage control and not an employee “breaking silence”. Also there’s not a thing about the CEO calling his employees losers to try to make them output more code by using AI more. Also looks like it was heavily bot-upvoted, both the thread and the initial positive comments. The whole thing makes me trust proton even less

feistypharit

Ugh, I was just about to move from self hosted bitwarden to protonpass. I dont want 1password. Alternatives?

erelong

Yeah I'd definitely want to hear the other side of the story before jumping to conclusions on that "biased attack piece" that made its rounds (it's very possible Proton is indeed in the wrong and can be fairly criticized, but I've seen enough conflicts like this where I want to hear what the other side says before rushing to judgment, especially about a tech company which was otherwise liked by a lot on HN it seems)

euvin

I'd like to call attention to a comment by another employee in that same thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/s/mZY98QqNMv Felt a touch refreshing.

SturgeonsLaw

> so here's the actual quote in context (unlike the leakers, I have permission to post this image) Worth keeping in mind that his post was reviewed and vetted by Proton management

commandersaki

How brave of you to defend your CEO's incompetence.

aborsy

Isn't embracing AI expected in a software company? Those who don't catch up will lose.