ICE to Pay Thomson Reuters $125M to Find Voter Fraud

add-sub-mul-div

I found it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Raffensperger_ph...

pjerem

But that's not nazi because Trump have no mustache.

baggachipz

Batshit insane. Does this mean they need to "find" it, like how he wanted to "find" more votes in Georgia?

solfox

I reckon that if you replace "find" with "make", you might be closer to the truth about what this data will be used for.

sanex

Pretty sure you're supposed to get a warrant to access private information. I don't know how we ended up in this place where somehow paying for info precludes the necessity to get a warrant a la flock, cell tower data, etc.

njovin

If you're a California resident, under the CCPA you can submit a request for Thomson Reuters to both provide you with and then delete any information they have collected about you. The state's even setup a nice portal to automate these requests across 600+ data brokers. https://privacy.ca.gov/drop/

epistasis

This is shocking and scary amount government over reach, to fabricate evidence of something that everyone knows is false... We are really through the looking glass here, folks. Watch the confirmation hearings where potential appointees are asked to simply state factually who won the 2020 residential election. The amount of dissembling, avoidance, and inability to say that the emperor has no clothes..... it's just shocking. This sort of rank corruption, of turning a government against its own people to subvert democracy... that more people aren't out in the streets about this makes me quite angry. We live in a state of continual shock of how bad things have gotten, I guess

flumpcakes

US politics is cooked. I wonder if polymarket will start taking bets on mid-terms being canceled.

thomascgalvin

Ah yes, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, that famous election security wing of the US Government

garciasn

https://archive.is/2L3sU More information: Target Data Collected According to procurement records initially reviewed by 404 Media, the system allows continuous monitoring of the following personal data points: [1] Names and addresses Social Security numbers Ethnicities Geolocation information Social media activity [1] https://www.change.org/p/demand-thomson-reuters-cancel-its-1...

croes

Is ICE the correct agency for voter fraud?

dofm

Has this always been ICE responsibility?

luxuryballs

Well there's obviously at least some amount of fraud and a lot of people with eyes on it so finding it seems like the best course of action at the moment, mostly due to the latter since millions of people trusting the elections is pretty important AND if they are verifiably secure it prevents people from running their mouth about it and swaying anyone to distrust them (had to get ahead of it). But really if you compare the US with the first country your mind thinks of when you think if trustworthy elections we have a long way to go and spending money and time looking for the weak spots is the correct start. This is an example of the minimum viable amount of effort that should go into this: "Belgium who was little known that time received more votes than mathematically predicted. So the members of the counting authority took out the magnetic cards and started counting again. After several hours they found that the vote total for every candidate was exactly the same before except for Maria Vindevogel. For Maria Vindevogel, the number of recounted vote was less than the original by 4096 number of votes. How this inflation in votes becomes possible even? What went wrong? Computer experts were brought in to run extensive tests to check the programme. They combed through the code but no bug was detected. Then they tested the hardware again and again." https://scotopia.in/journal/journalbkend/paper_list/v-4-i-1(...

jmyeet

When I was young, I thought mandatory voting was silly. It made uninformed people vote. Well, certainly in this case, I was the uninformed person because seeing how non-mandatory voting works (in the US) should convinced everyone that voting should be mandatory. The history of the US is one of voter suppression. Women couldn't vote. After Emancipation, barriers were put in to stop black people from voting (so-called "grandfather" laws). We got the Voting Rights Act for a reason. Many reasons actually. All the way back in the Reagan era we had the Republican Party engaging in voter disenfranchisement with, for example, the Ballot Security Task Force [1]. This was part of the reason why we needed federal preclearance until John Roberts and his Heritage Foundation henchmen decided that it was impossible to prove racism or disenfrachisement. We continue this by not only removing the voting rights of felons (which should be unconstitutional) but we pass around lists of names of felons and strike off people from electoral rolls for having names that sound similar to that of a felon from a completely different state. There is no widespread voter fraud. There is widespread voter disenfranchisement. All of this is just a pretext for stealing elections. We'll se on January 3rd if the current House Speaker refuses to certify results and swear in new members when the Republicans lose in a landslide. Or we see more shenanigans like in the 2020 election to overturn the presidential election. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_Security_Task_Force

stldev

This isn't about "finding" fraud. This is about instilling fear, uncertainty and doubt.

Varelion

This process has been carried out, publicly, a few times. Every time the results not only fail to support the current regime's narrative, they actively goes against it. So, the question becomes: "Who is getting kickbacks for this 'deal'?" More importantly, how in the hell it this under the purview of ICE? Agencies and units have strictly outlined mission statements they are not supposed to go outside of. What kind of secret police nonsense it this? EDIT: Word choice & spelling

wnevets

Its time to abolish ICE.

ansuman441

There are lot of ways to do it, but the biggest challenge is will they do it? like it's mostly a descision rather than capabilities.

jimnotgym

ICE have jurisdiction over elections now?

ck2

Our country is now a clown show Heritage Foundation, you know those super-left liberals, already did this and found like a hundred votes max over a decade and most of those were pure accidents and not intentional fraud, certainly not able to sway elections even by accident I previously felt there was a suitable purpose for a small tiny ICE like Obama-sized era But now I'm with the abolish folks, it's 100% irredeemable and between them executing people without repercussions and a budget larger than many critical organizations, just delete them completely and start over.