I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

andreasgl

https://xcancel.com/mitchellh/status/2055380239711457578

weinzierl

"its fine to ship bugs because the agents will fix them so quickly and at a scale humans can't do!" Hmm, I agree with the point OP is making, but I'm not so sure this is the best supporting argument. The bottleneck is finding the bugs and if he'd criticized people saying AI will be the panacea to that I'd be with him, but people saying agents are fast and good at fixing human found bugs is nothing I'd object to. Agents are fixing bugs so quickly and at a scale humans can't do already.

tacostakohashi

"no no, it has full test coverage" at least at my BigCo, AI is being used for everything - writing slop, writing tests, code reviews, etc. it would make sense to use AI for writing code, but human code review. or, human code, but AI test cases... or whatever combination of cross-checking, trust-but-verify, human in the loop, etc. people prefer. i think once it gets used for everything , people have lost the plot, it's the inmates running the asylum.

robotswantdata

Most labs are shilling “AI worker” dreams to these very companies

nialse

I'm starting to long for the age after AI. When the generative euphoria has settled and all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and standards.

senordevnyc

Assuming he’s right, I don’t see how that constitutes “psychosis”, as opposed to this beyond yet another of a billion examples of companies jumping on a bandwagon / cargo cult, and then learning they took it too far. And also, he might not be right. But the good news is, we’ll all get to find out together!

CodingJeebus

Anyone who's taken VC funding has no choice. More money has been spent on AI commercialization than the atomic bomb, the US interstate build-out, the ISS and the Apollo program combined. Failure is going to be catastrophic and therefore, one tied to this ship cannot accept a world in which it fails.

LunicLynx

Either this or we humans are out of the picture soon.

leeoniya

> "no no, it has full test coverage" i don't have enough fingers (and toes) to count how many times i've demonstrated that "100% coverage" is almost universally bullshit.

woeirua

This doesn’t constitute AI psychosis. His argument is that we need to retain understanding of the systems we use, but there’s no compelling argument as to why that is the case. (I get that people are going to be offended by that statement, but agents are already better than the average software engineer. I don’t see why we need to fight this, except for economic insecurity caused by mass layoffs.) It all just feels like horse drawn carriage operators trying to convince automobile drivers to stop driving.

miek

My very large employer has always been glacially slow on modernization and tech adoption. It may now, oddly enough, become a competitive advantage.

elevation

Mitchell aches because his career has been solving broadly scoped problems by building a collection of thoughtful primitives for others to extend. LLMs seem to do the opposite but at great speed, and it hurts to watch.

taffydavid

This post calls out how you can't argue with these people because they say its fine to ship bugs because the agents will fix them so quickly and at a scale humans can't do!" the top reply is from someone doing exactly that, arguing "but the agents are so fast!"

slopinthebag

I have a ton of respect for Mitchell - I didn't really know who he was until Ghostty but his writings and viewpoints on AI seem really grounded and make the most sense to me. Including this one. Many people on this forum are suffering under this same psychosis.

Groxx

Bug reports also go down when people lose faith that they will be fixed, because reporting them is often a substantial time commitment. You see it happen pretty regularly as trust in a group/company collapses.

selectively

I do not believe 'AI psychosis' is an actual thing.

bolangi

When war psychosis is not enough....

ivanjermakov

Deprecating immature workflows (LLM agents in this case) is much simpler and faster than building them from scratch. Many companies get this risk assessment right. The case where being wrong is much more costly than being right.

dtnewman

If you feel this way, you might like my new CLI tool, Burn, Baby, Burn (those tokens) ( https://github.com/dtnewman/burn-baby-burn/tree/main ). Show HN here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48151287

mattgreenrocks

The only way many people learn that the stove is hot is by burning their hands on it. Let them.