How to hide from killer drones

pseudolus 118 points 154 comments July 11, 2026
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ButlerianJihad

Machine Learning CAPTCHA https://m.xkcd.com/2228/

esseph

If you're really interested in this kind of thing, Grand Thumb on YouTube has a couple of videos about it. I think it was Dirty Civilian on YouTube that had a good video on how to prepare hide sites and the impact of using the right laundry detergent as to reduce or eliminate IR brightener chemicals, etc.

trhway

Half the time it is the nighttime and the things are in IR https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47000051 . You may still try to camouflage and decrease your IR visibility - stealth planes try to do it, and there are some IR-decreasing covers for tanks and people. The night time hunt using IR is widely practiced today in Ukraine and even was widely practiced by US and USSR in Afghanistan and Iraq as surroundings gets cooled down and cars, people and say donkeys used to transport weapons in mountains become highly contrast against the surroundings and thus easy to spot visually and to lock IR seeker of a weapon. Saddam used USSR anti-ship missiles, old even then, to attack Iran oil storage tanks at night as the missiles were easily able to lock on that large bright IR emission of the tanks still hot from the day against the cold night desert.

delichon

Twenty four years later I'm still looking for ways to evade the spider drones deployed by PreCrime in Minority Report.

ahartmetz

Oh, so dazzle camouflage is back. I wonder if the more sophisticated "classic" patterns would work better. They certainly do for human observers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflage

stefan_

This is an odd article that tries to elevate some random grunt in the field painting their truck white stripes to grand battlefield strategy in the face of autonomous AI killer drones. Neither are the latter real nor is the former actually in widespread use, and it obviously is not effective, not least because the drones it's talking about barely have the resolution at altitude to resolve that detail.

sleepyguy

If anyone here is into drones, manufactures, ideas, or wants to either use their drone piloting skills or learn how to pilot drones. Ukraine is recruiting for positions. https://usforces.army/en

tcp_handshaker

Slaughterbots: https://youtu.be/O-2tpwW0kmU

davidwritesbugs

As a bonus it will also repel horse flies. https://www.science.org/content/article/zebra-stripes-confus...

orthoxerox

Dazzle camouflage doesn't work on killer drones. Even civilian LLMs recognize that the object on the photograph is a military truck, except they can't explain why it's been painted to resemble a zebra. Most dedicated machine vision models easily lock in on a boxy shape moving along a road. If anything, the stripes make the trucks easier to see. The real answer to killer drones is a CIWS that can cover 2pi steradians and attack multiple drones at the same time, because otherwise it will be just swarmed by drones that quietly glide towards it, engines off, from several directions before entering the final dive.

haunter

You don't /r/CombatFootage (NSFL)

therobots927

Censorship is alive and well on this cursed site

lelandfe

A tip from a 2024 Google paper[0]: > It's important to note that the risk of misuse is significantly lower for individuals who have never had typical speech patterns How to Hide from Killer Drones: It's important to note that that the risk of being riddled with drone bullets is significantly lower for individuals who have never had human physical characteristics. [0] https://research.google/blog/restoring-speaker-voices-with-z...

srameshc

This title scared me, not for myself but more thinking about how kids will probably need to learn these things next. We are such strange 'intelligent' creatures who have figured out everything but not to be at peace with each other.

laughing_man

After WW II German u-boat captains said they were never particularly bothered by dazzle camouflage. Ten years from now I have a feeling we'll get the same information from drone operators.

wa2flq

How about lots of similarly painted cheap decoys!?

einpoklum

> The probable result will be an arms race pitting increasingly sophisticated machine vision systems against cleverer and cleverer methods for fooling them. FPV drones are a thing. In, fact, I suspect most drones in the NATO-Russia war are FPV rather than fully autonomous.

Jazgot

Most drones use thermal cameras, this camouflage rather does not help.

dkresge

If only it was simple rage bait. As a member of this thing we call "civilization" I can't help but wonder how the hell we got to this point. #rhetorical

iFire

> https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2026/quadrf-can-spot-drone... You can't hide from drones. Attach quadrf to your drone and now you can see through walls.

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