House passes bill to enact year-round Daylight Saving Time across the country

lioeters

Curious how this affects date/time algorithms and software libraries, particularly those that do not have a way to sync with an external authoritative source of time. I guess they all need to be updated to account for this change?

ClassAndBurn

I finally built my side project and the government finally does something to make it pointless! Yay? https://www.daylightsmearings.com/

MilnerRoute

It still needs to pass the Senate.

hobonation

Cool. We did this before 1974 and immediately went back, and I never understood why. I guess I'll find out. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-happened-the-...

gepeake

> But detractors say it could have economic consequences, particularly for farmers who would have to wrestle with later sunrises. I genuinely don't understand the "farmer's like DST" argument. Farmer's schedules are dictated by the sun not the time and the sun changes continuously year round. If the argument is about commercial coordination that follows the same logic of being difficult regardless given constantly shifting sunlight, at least without DST there's year-round consistency by the other businesses.

jmclnx

>though its chances in the upper chamber remain unclear Now they need to get it through the Senate. Maybe we'll see something useful passed during this admin :)

botacode

This will save a lot of lives! Hope it passes. The shift is a relic of an older economy and damages folks' lives through worse mental health and driving outcomes [0]. [0]: https://www.coveragecat.com/blog/daylight-saving-time-car-in...

marssaxman

I'm glad we're agreed that changing the clocks twice a year is a bad idea, but I don't understand why we should abandon Daylight Savings Time by adopting it permanently. What's so wrong with Standard Time? Oh, well: whether we put the clocks back or leave them permanently off-by-one, either is better than changing them around over and over.

al_borland

I think saying on one time is better than switching back and forth, but we should really stick to Standard time. I know people like it to be light out later in the evenings, but they tried this before in the 1970s and it didn't last long[0]. It turns out not only do people not like it to be dark late into the morning, but it also makes it unsafe for kids going to school. Looking at sunrise and sunset times[1], people will spend a significant portion of the year with dark mornings. Historically, year-round DST was done to conserve energy during war time and other energy crunches. Standard time seems like the more balanced choice for year-round use... that's probably why it was the standard to begin with. As difficult as these things are to pass, and as disruptive as they are (especially now with software update requirements), getting it right instead of making the same mistakes of the past seems important. [0] https://washingtonian.com/2022/03/15/the-us-tried-permanent-... [1] https://savestandardtime.com/maps/

rho138

_This_ is the great herculean push for workers rights from Gen X — abolishment of the cruel Standard Time! What a fucking joke that this is what we send people to washington for, while citizens are summarily executed in the streets and cost of living skyrockets.

encrypted_bird

Something I genuinely don't understand: everyone is saying that with DST, the sun rises later in the day. But as someone who doesn't work first shift and regularly goes to bed anytime between 04:00 and 06:00, I can tell you with certainty that in the summer time (when DST is active), the sun always comes up *way* sooner. I typically despise DST because I always struggle to fall asleep due to the damned sun coming up right as I go to bed. Meanwhile, in the winter, the sun typically doesn't start to rise until closer to 08:00.

delichon

This was passed in 1974, then repealed a few months later by popular demand. https://www.joshbarro.com/p/this-week-in-the-mayonnaise-clin...

matthewowen

This is a bad change. I think it’s bad for kids to have to walk to school before sunrise. Fundamentally it is useful to have more sunlight later in the evenings in the summer. It’s also useful to have sunlight early enough in the morning for conventional “start of day” times. Changing the clocks meets these. Yes, time is arbitrary and throughout the year we could collectively change the times we do things at to better match daylight hours but this is obviously much worse and harder to coordinate than changing the time for everyone all together’

jambalaya8

Great. This will break every last log, timestamp, and record everywhere. We don't need any of that. I remember this exact debate going on in the south pacific in 2007.