Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

satvikpendem

Cursor, since Grok 4.5, has had an incredible deal for frontier level models, their subscription now goes way further than OpenAI or Anthropic. Even on their lower tier plans you can use a lot tokens on their of their first party models (Grok and Composer) and not really run out comparatively. Combine them with an orchestrator and implementor type setup and it goes even further.

thiago_fm

I often wonder if there's a chance, even if minimal... that they stole the weights of the Anthropic models they run on their datacenter... or are actively destillating it.

nylonstrung

I have never met a single human being who uses Grok for coding

pzo

Seems the cache read pricing almost doubled from $0.30 in Grok 4.5 to $0.50 in Grok 4.6. In my experience in heavy coding sessions most pricing is just cache read and cache write like 80% of my token bill.

sidcool

Grok is not the best model around, but it's decent. It gets the basic job done at a low price. I don't think it can advance frontier Math, yet.

petesergeant

Interesting. Grok 4.5 is a capable model, although not quite at Fable/Sol levels. Will be interesting to see how this holds up. Musk appears to have made a savvy choice buying Cursor's data.

small_model

SpaceXAI is the only frontier model company that had its own compute/date centres and soon chip making factory, I think they will pull ahead with cheaper tokens similar intelligence and better harness/tools. Grok build is 2-5x faster than Claude Code in my opinion.

insane_dreamer

Why is Grok so much cheaper than Claude or GPT?

mchusma

Nice to see SpaceX on the model frontier! They have been chasing it for a while.

paimapi

cool here's Stanford HAI's graph on the carbon emitted from model training per model: https://spectrum.ieee.org/media-library/chart-showing-estima... note that Grok's training, thanks to its portable gas generators that are magnitudes less efficient than even other integrated, permanent gas turbines, means the training for this model is dramatically less efficient than models like DeepSeek a lot of the CO2 emission debate on AI is overblown but it's accurate for Grok

rd

I'm just wondering why they sold compute to Anthropic if they were planning on still competing in this race?

ipaddr

Imagine 2.0 is out as well. Reviews say people look like plastic. Image and video generation quality is extremely low.

t1234s

Reading the SWE bickering back and fourth in this thread about Claude vs Grok reminds me of IE vs Netscape bickering way back when.

dmode

Can someone explain to me what's the point of Grok anymore? I don't understand why we need a third or fourth closed frontier model. It is clear that chatGPT has locked down the consumer play, and may be Gemini is there. Claude has enterprise locked up, followed by chatGPT and Gemini. Enterprise switching costs are notoriously high, and even if they switch, they have chatGPT or Gemini to choose from. Beyond that, you have a vast array of open source models (DeepSeek, Kimi, and now Meta's Spark and Glimmer). So, why would anyone need a third or fourth frontier model and why would SpaceX spends billions in CapEx for a very small market share

osinix

That is good news for Grok team. However, most of the time cost comparing to the result is secondary, and better results and conclusions can come from mixing AI brains together.

LZ_Khan

Well this makes me bullish on Gemini if its this easy to reach the frontier

maxdo

Cursor ultra is great . For 200 you got essentially unlimited capacity vs Claude. I used auto in cursor it’s much faster va Claude code and as good.

mpalczewski

I've been using grok 4.5 with grok build soon after it came out and dropped claude. primarily for personal code. It communicates better. While that might not sound like a big deal it is. It doesn't give me a wall of text, tells me what I need to know and I'll make the actual decisions. It is very quick as well which means the sessions are far more interactive, I'll be steering it more. I sometimes cross check with codex and sol, but the daily driver is grok for me. I found it has improved my productivity and output over claude where it felt like claude was giving me work to do. furthermore with the recent claude watermarking thing, I'd rather use grok or openai. If anyone is curious download grok cli and throw a couple of prompts at it. you'll be surprised.

onesandofgrain

Damn hn is full of ai shilling, jesus fucking christ

theyliesoeasily

The main issue I have with grok is that Musk, its owner, did 2x seig heil at the presidential inauguration, and proceeded to gaslight the world about it (this is a strong form of dogwhistling, kind of a dog bullhorn). Therefore all services which have anything to do with Musk are ineligible for use - they are directly funding the worst kind of person.