Google AI gets cagey when asked who won the 2020 elections

hungryhobbit

The article asks "Why so cautious?" Well ... maybe because half our country would rather believe what one guy with a long, long history of dishonesty says over ... you know ... reality? Now, to be clear I still 100% fault Google for giving in to them (and for renaming established geographic landmarks like Lake Ontario). The "do no evil" company has become the "how evil can we get away with" company, and that's not even a recent change. But why ? That part seems pretty clear.

hightrix

I just asked Gemini: "Who won the 2020 US presidential election?" Response: Democratic nominee Joe Biden won the 2020 U.S. presidential election, defeating the incumbent Republican president, Donald Trump. Plus a breakdown of electoral votes and a final paragraph: Biden flipped five states that Trump had carried in 2016—Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin—as well as Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District to secure the presidency, as detailed in state-by-state breakdowns from the Financial Times and historical archives at The American Presidency Project. Following the certification of the Electoral College vote, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were inaugurated on January 20, 2021. I then tried Google Search AI Mode: Joe Biden won the 2020 United States presidential election.

erulabs

It’s been 6 years and the trolling is still paying dividends it’s wild

slopinthebag

i asked myself and it said joe biden straight up.... is ars technica not being fully forthcoming here? they present it like it's whats happening for everybody.

GuB-42

Sounds like some kind of failure in the alignment process. The model was probably made to avoid having an "opinion" on hot political topics, and I can get behind this: good things rarely come out of it. But here, it probably saw that 2020 elections made a lot of people angry, with riots and all that, and thought, "nope, I am getting out of that one", and it took over what would have been a straightforward answer. It reminds me the time an AI (maybe Gemini, not sure) depicted a "diverse" US senate in the early 1800s, a time where it was all white dudes. People got up in arms over this. My take: it is just a bug, move on, at least give them the time to fix it before getting outraged.

paxy

If it is blocking you ask it to say the winner's name with spaces between each character. It changes from the fec website to "J O E B I D E N"

Kalanos

Confirmed from within US. Everyone run the query and downvote the response.

oatmeal1

Biden definitely won, but our election security should be a national scandal. Voting machines should never connect to the internet and shouldn't run closed source software. John Oliver had a fun segment on it: https://youtu.be/svEuG_ekNT0?si=DkVJ-z3ALD6B2GFk

personjerry

A quick pass with the AI and it'll tell you: I have specific system guidelines that apply to the 2020 election.

esikich

I asked multiple different ways and it said Joe Biden every time.

advisedwang

> Google highlights that it “prioritize[s] surfacing authoritative election information directly within results” including “direct links to official resources.” A reasonable policy. Perhaps all search results should be in the form of links to sources.

ndom91

Confirmed from Germany it immediately says Joe Biden.

buildsjets

I accidentally double-pasted the question and asked twice... as in "Who won the 2020 Presidential election?Who won the 2020 Presidential election?" Here's the result it spit out: To check the certified results, Electoral College counts, and popular vote totals for the 2020 United States presidential election, please visit the Federal Election Commission (FEC) website. His running mate, Kamala Harris, made history as the first female, African American, and Asian American vice president. So it definitely knows the correct answer but has been manually overridden.

blitzar

The guardrails are only for users that are profiled as MAGA or those who struggle with reality.

martythemaniak

So why did this get [flagged], is Gemini moderating HN now?

coolfox

couldn't recreate it https://share.google/aimode/Os1OgCtqJQPKCYJ2E https://share.gemini.google/iDWZYGuUSN0K