Five Eyes warns AI models capable of toppling governments are months away

speckx 13 points 19 comments June 22, 2026
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Discussion Highlights (7 comments)

recursivedoubts

Nice try, you aren't gonna get me to love AI guys.

rich_sasha

Governments able to topple themselves with 100% natural incompetence, meanwhile, have been invented millennia ago. AI is catching up.

AnimalMuppet

Hmm. The article seems to be about AIs enabling cyberattacks. How bad would a cyberattack have to be to topple a government? I guess I could see a parliamentary government losing public confidence if it failed to prevent a severe enough attack. I'm not sure I see it for something like the US, where elections are fixed. It might swing the next election, but that's not the same as "toppling a government", is it?

himata4113

Suddenly when we invest 100m into cyber security (project glasswire) and 100b in training toppling governments is months away, but if you were to train and hire a team of people for the same amount of money it's nothing new. There might be a bigger reason why five eyes is doing this, but even with all the knowledge I have of the (publically known) capabilities of five eyes I really don't see why this statement exists. Either we're on the verge of real, efficient computer intelligence or this is just fearmongering that has been elevated from mouth to mouth making it sound way more severe than it actually is. State sponsored actors have already had the capability of mythos, the only thing mythos allows is reducing the amount of precursor knowledge needed in order to perform explotation. I've been slowly working on "mythos at home" article with solid proof of replicating many of the (claimed) capabilties that mythos has with opensource models and GLM-5.2 has been pretty instrumental in advancing it forward. I strongly believe there is either something extremely serious being hidden from the public (nothing new, five eyes operates in secrecy) or this is overblown fearmongering being brought up to the upper decision center that are afraid that non state sponsored entities now have the capability to achieve what was previously only possible when you're backed by a state. On the bright side, glm-5.2 is pretty good at autonomously optimizing software so at least we're not going to be locked out of the frontier for long. -- Side note: The amount of vulerabilities found in blockchains around gpt and opus 4.7 release does show that it is a real problem and I am not denying that. There have been several government agencies that have suffered from data leaks last few months as well as general more public CVE's such as copyfail. But I still believe if the same kind of money was invested into people we'd have similar if not better results.

Bender

If AI can do mass exploitation then it can also do mass patching. Some malware in the past has been used to mass patch machines. Get to it. Give the teams doing this presidential pardons and full immunity. Apply patches and mitigations on all the things. Impress us all. One big downtime, get 'er done.

josefritzishere

Nonsense. The fearmongering around the word guessing machine is ridiculous. It can't even tell you how many Bs are in the word Blueberry.

bitshiftfaced

I don't see where the advisory says what The Guardian's headline says: https://www.cyber.gov.au/sites/default/files/2026-06/Five%20...

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