Dispatches from the possibly last days of human relevance

gizajob

Reports of our demise are greatly exaggerated.

andyjohnson0

Someone close to me is about to embark on a maths PhD. I'm curious about what advice people here would have for people in that position.

isomorphic_duck

It remains to be seen if LLMs would do any good in the "theory-building" heavy fields of math. They have certainly proven themselves in branches of math where the progress is verifiable, but fields like AG commonly have papers that do not concretely solve a problem but provide a new perspective/framework. This is iterated upon if other mathematicians find the construction rich and interesting enough, which eventually leads to breakthroughs. LLMs have yet to show that they can meaningfully make such helpful abstractions. Not saying that it can't be done, but I wouldn't write such doomer posts just as yet.

wewewedxfgdf

Soon we will all just be human cattle owner by billionaires who own all the technology used to keep us poor and indoors. Oh, no - that's actually now.

metalman

bwaaaaaa! ha ha ha bwaaaaa! wheeeeeeuew! is the title what happens from too much ketamine? or is the hype machine being tasked with streeeetching things out for one more quarter? bills, elections, push back,lack of relevance, that sort of stuff.

TimorousBestie

> I feel like at this point, both the prophets of AI utopia like Ray Kurzweil, and of AI doom like Eliezer Yudkowsky, could be forgiven for asking: dude, will you listen to us YET? What did Kurzweil or Yudkowsky predict that actually came to pass? I assign this Scott no points for bringing up Penrose as a straw man. That’s a very old canard.

ablation

He's embedded in a social and professional world that has every incentive to believe the current state of AI progress is real and important and should be hyped to the stars. I am unsurprised to read such frothing soothsaying as a result.

layer8

Luckily, humans will always remain relevant to humans.

weahg

Aaronson has worked for OpenAI and probably has stock options. Gowers is funded by the "AI for math" fund by XTX markets. The students who have been alarmed outside his office should take a course in marketing and journalistic ethics to assess the situation more rationally and figure out that the problem might sit in the office. It is interesting by the way that Google does use Lean in a loop to refine proofs. This was called heresy by AI boosters earlier who said that Lean was never used in proofs.