Did They Ghost You?

nekusar

The real answer is that many jobbads are fraudulent. And fraudulent job ads should be handled the same way a fraudulent advertisement for a good is handled: you either make good and prove hiring, or you're tried for felony fraud.

jasonjmcghee

Based on the strange emoji use in place of some buttons, I'm guessing this is vibe coded- and a lot of this is really nice looking front end - great color, topography, border styles... Would be interested to know how much intervention there was or if this is where we are

orphereus

My anegdotal experience in EU is that ghosting AFTER the company responds to your application is very, very rare. I would always get the usual "Unfortunately, we have decided..." charades. At least no ghosting. I can think of only one situation, and it was kinda peculiar in its own right (they called me 8 months after my application because they were in a jam and I said I won't be able to start in such a short notice they wanted, and they warned me in advance they would ghost me because the HR was I presume in a crunch). As for the ghostings BEFORE they even respond to the job application, I'd say that it is around 40% of job applications that I never get a response after "We have received your job application yada yada yada". Again, this is just my anegdotal experience. Maybe my experience in EU job market is a rarity.

thousand_nights

for a moment i thought this was a commentary about my relationships

arcade79

Anecdotal, I know, but I was ghosted by Google back in 2004-2005 or thereabouts. Back and forth with a recruiter, who promised me that she would book phone screens. Then heard nothing. Pinged her repeatedly. Nothing. A few years later got another Google recruiter after me. Ended up getting hired in 2008. Looked up the previous recruiter. Her last day at the company was the day she promised she would book phone screens, or the day after (can't remember exactly, this is quite a few years ago). I can only assume she was suddenly let go. Ever since, I keep wondering how many ghostings happen because the person holding the strings disappears for some reason, and there's a lack of system to follow up on that.

mathisfun123

this is pointless because different teams/different recruiters within the same company operate differently (surprise surprise humans are different).

zem

wonder if this would count as sousveillance [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance ]

rubylimetea

Is ghosting really such a big deal? Wait until you get an overly smug rejection letter that the author seemed too eager to write, and took too much joy in writing. Some people love to reject, and would never miss an opportunity. Another angle is - If you've been ghosted, you still have not been told no. That means there's no record of you ever getting denied for the position. (and maybe you really haven't been) It's kinda better IMO

lacunary

this is cool but the leaderboard is just going to converge on large companies unless it's normalized somehow

lulzury

I think companies that don’t even acknowledge your application also need to be in this list. Most companies ghost at the application level.

SilverElfin

We need this for employees too. There are many who don’t act ethically when interviewing for a job.

SystemOut

I think that there should be a feature of "they turned me down/declined" and have an option for whether or not they gave you useful feedback. We should also reward and encourage positive behavior by companies.

sscaryterry

In my personal experience, order of dodginess :) 1. Recruiter 2. Second-hand car salesman 3. Realtor 4. Mechanics 5. Lawyers

tamimio

> Provide a factual account without names, What that even means? What’s a “factual account”?! The story/events? The account you used to apply? Or what That being said, ghosting and generic rejections are alike, usually when you don’t hear from a company within a week (or within the time you ask them when you would hear back), you know they went with someone else, going back at you after that time is a major redflag, either they are chaotic, or the other candidate ditched them in the negotiations because they don’t know how to negotiate and are looking for bargain not a skillsets. Also, I think instead of the company only, the recruiter/HR name should be there plus the company, public shaming is needed for those individuals, maybe other recruiters are good on following up, which is not fair for the good ones while the bad ones are hidden.

pluc

https://ghostjobs.net/ https://ghostjobs.io/ ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43853401 )

ChrisMarshallNY

Those are quite small sample sizes. I assume that this is supposed to grow? In my experience, I was usually ghosted (sometimes, rather brutally). In a couple of instances, I was able to get the companies to confirm that I was toast, but only after I bugged them.

bogwog

This would probably be more effective (and controversial) if the reports included the linkedin profiles of the recruiters/employees involved in the ghosting. I can imagine a lot of situations where it'd be unfair, so maybe giving them an opportunity to explain their side before it goes up might be important... but also fuck you if you ghost someone trying to find a job.

nexus2045

I very much advocate for this, but only if you're past the HR/recruiter screen. Onsites, coding screen, second round, etc.

lschueller

An API for reporting would be nice. Besides that: hope this page came to stay. It's nicely done. Couple of years ago there was a very similar project here on hn, which came to a halt after only a couple of days it got posted