Building a CLI for all of Cloudflare

xnacly

> We write a lot of TypeScript at Cloudflare. It’s the lingua franca of software engineering. This scares me more than Im able to admit, typescript sucks and in my opinion its way worse than the more commonly used lingua franca of computing, which I would attribute to C. At least C can be used to create shared objects i guess?

8cvor6j844qw_d6

> Tell us your hopes and dreams for a Cloudflare-wide CLI It'd be great if the Wrangler CLI could display the required API token permissions upfront during local dev, so you know exactly what to provision before deploying. Even better if there were something like a `cf permissions check` command that tells you what's missing or unneeded perms with an API key.

kodablah

> You can try the technical preview today by running npx cf. Or you can install it globally by running npm install -g cf. A couple of obvious questions - Is it open source (npmjs side doesn't point to repo)? And in general will it be available as a single binary instead of requiring nodejs tooling to install/use? If so, using recently-acquired Bun or another product/approach?

kodama-lens

I'm happy that there will be more tooling, but the reason for that (and the target audience) should not be ai agents. It should be a good experience for humans! Tools should be tested and quality assured. Something that was utterly missing for cloudflare's unusable v5 terraform provider. Quality over quantity with a ux that has humans in mind!

bensmoif

Oh yes to this! I spent yesterday morning working this out when it smacked me in the face

latchkey

I just wish they'd fix billing notifications. The ux makes it impossible to set it up. Been complaining about that on X, got a couple people saying they would look into it, even one that gave me his email address. Pure silence.

benatkin

> Right now, cf provides commands for just a small subset of Cloudflare products. Why didn't they vibe code support for more? With this on the heels of EmDash, and this being a technical preview, it feels inconsistent.

risyachka

> Tell us your hopes and dreams for a Cloudflare-wide CLI Please call it flare.

dcre

Wonderful post and I will be taking inspiration from it. Surprised not to see TypeSpec https://typespec.io/ mentioned, which is a TypeScript-like schema language that I like to describe as "what if OpenAPI was good". I'm guessing they considered it and decided building their own would be both simpler and more flexible. The cost of BYO has come down a lot thanks to agents.

cordwainersmith

Finally. Jumping between wrangler, the dashboard, and raw API calls has been annoying for a while. I'm keen on the local explorer most, debugging Workers locally has always been clunky. Anyone know how this plays with Terraform-managed infra?

porphyra

Ironically, with the advent of AI agents and stuff, we're going back from "checkbox engineering" in GUI webpages to CLI tools. Every time I need to clear cache in cloudflare when I upload a new version of an asset, I have to click through a bunch of things. Would be nice to just message my openclaw agent to do it.

j45

Complete CLI coverage is so great to see.

acedTrex

Its so depressing that it took widespread LLM psychosis to finally get company leadership to invest in actual CLI tooling. No, the customers never mattered but the mythical "LLM agent" is vitally important to cater too.

f-serif

I wish there were CLI preview command when making changes in Cloudflare. I have few domains on Cloudflare and when making some changes, I wish there were a way to apply the same changes to multiple domains for consistency. CLI preview for UI action will make it possible.

jeffrallen

This, but for Bunny DNS, so I can get closer to 100% European clouds. :)

nzoschke

I have been experimenting with Open API spect -> CLI too. I have Go and specs auto-generated either with Huma or Fuego https://github.com/danielgtaylor/huma https://github.com/go-fuego/fuego The restish tool by the author of Huma is functionally correct, but I'm finding the models are not doing a great job at inferring the syntax. Admittedly I am having a hard time following the syntax too. https://github.com/rest-sh/restish I need to do proper evals, but it makes me wonder if `curl` or a CLI with more standard args / opts parsing will work better. Thanks to Cloudflare for sharing their notes, anyone else figure this out?

nla

Excellente!

mfbx9da4

BTW Speakeasy support generating customizable CLIs written in Go from OpenAPI specs. https://www.speakeasy.com/docs/cli-generation/create-cli (Disclaimer: I work for Speakeasy)

amingilani

> So we introduced a new TypeScript schema that can define the full scope of APIs, CLI commands and arguments, and context needed to generate any interface. The schema format is “just” a set of TypeScript types with conventions, linting, and guardrails to ensure consistency. I'm confused though, why isn't that tool/framework being shown here. What is it and how does it work? It is similar to the TypeSpec tool someone else posted?

5701652400

> First Principles am I the only one put off with such language? they talk as if they invented compilers or assembly or Newton's law of gravity.