British Airways: Filming Crew W Meta Glasses Could Get Your Tickets Cancelled

jgrahamc

Seems fair; I won't speak to people wearing glasses with cameras in them.

kay_o

Those glasses should be an actual crime everywhere.

karakoram

Amazing news! Something like this should implemented in all areas. What if my family and I are on the flight and I don't want them filmed? I have heard the middle east has some very strict public filming laws, especially for women and children. Would be very popular globally!

hbcdbff

Saw a guy the other day in the gym wearing these I joined many others in giving him a “shit on a shoe” look.

nekusar

Depends. Is British airways also agreeing not to record as well, or is just one of those paternalistic 'we don't want YOU to have evidence of wrongdoing'? My guess, given England, is that they double down on more cameras, and conveniently lose recordings they don't like.

nagalluri

It's unfortunate that Meta Glasses found PMF with folks who want to nonconsensually record social interactions

delichon

I assert the right and duty of surveillance reciprocity. Little brother may and should watch big brother, and share.

twoodfin

I fly BA across the Atlantic every few months, and today for the first time the safety briefing included a specific callout of respecting privacy while filming aboard.

toomuchtodo

Well done, more of this.

otterley

There's nothing new here. European airlines generally prohibit filming the activities of their employees, regardless of technology. In fact, most of them (unlike U.S.-based airlines) try to anonymize their employees. They don't wear name tags, for example. I've had this be a problem when I was trying to capture a FA's photo while disembarking the aircraft after he rudely chastised me for using the bathroom "too many times" due to a bladder condition.

bryanlarsen

Airplanes are a great use case for display glasses. They make using a computer or watching a movie in economy class so much nicer. I like using display glasses that don't have a camera. But unfortunately everybody assumes they do have one. Assuming I'm a dork because I'm wearing them is fair. Assuming I'm a creep isn't.

yieldcrv

best use I’ve seen for meta glasses have been parties, where the host hands them out and takes your phone as collateral or locks them up in some way everyone gets content and gets to be present, optionally or mandatory turn in of the glasses when leaving everyone knows what they're walking into and some level of curation and community lets people still be loose, or know what level of discretion they should have

arccy

We need to bring back the term "Glasshole".

yokoprime

Good. More of this

andy99

In the US anyway it feels like the battle for public spaces has been lost. Everywhere I go people are listening full blast to their phones with no headphones - I find this about 100x more obnoxious than filming. I think both should be banned with Singapore-style punishments but I expect even if companies posture about this nothing will happen. United famously prohibited using your audio without headphones but based on my trip with them last week that has done nothing. At this point it’s a societal problem that needs a tougher approach.

akersten

What about filming them with a regular smartphone?

arjie

It's really unfortunate that to make the world visual-legible to a machine we have to permit recording in a high-fidelity format. I'd love to have an AI assistant perceive the universe around me and assist but I prefer to give people a measure of discretion in personal interactions. I've used the Meta Glasses in public, though, and they're really fantastic. You can ask about fish you can see, or you can capture your kids in a moment. Such a pity about this perhaps immutable property of life.

uwagar

what are they scared about? BA sells the accent folks. not service.

CPLX

I have decidedly mixed feelings about this. In general, I don't think people should just be allowed to record and post other people's private moments. I think we don't want to live a life where we are at risk of every single thing that we've ever done being posted as video. On the other hand, I travel a lot, and I take videos frequently to protect myself. Almost invariably, what I'm talking about here is walking around a rental car when I pick it up and drop it off. But there are other scenarios, like documenting that I was at a gate on time if they're claiming I was late and denying me boarding. Of course, there are the ones that are contemplated by this article, like a dispute with another passenger or someone about what happened or what's happening, since the consequences of that stuff can be so severe. I think a lot of European countries have laws around this that usually have exceptions for scenarios like that. For example, I was once recording the condition of a drop-off rental car in Italy. The rental car employee started screaming at me, claiming that, since he had been in the frame at some point or another, what I was doing was illegal. Meanwhile, he was refusing to give me a written receipt or some other proof that I had actually returned the car. If you know anything about rental cars in Italy, you want that, so I just took the video to confirm that I had, in fact, given them the keys and the car. After it blew up and some research was done, it became clear that, while Italian law does have very strict restrictions on publishing recordings of people, recording your own customer service interactions for purposes of protecting yourself is clearly allowed. I think a fairer policy here would be sharing, publishing, or distributing any recordings is very strictly prohibited, but merely possessing them can be permitted if the recorder can make a bona fide assertion that it was done for purposes of recording or protecting themselves and their rights as a customer.

analog8374

Assuming that nobody is gonna exploit it for marketing or other nefarious ends. A society that constantly videos everything would be kindof great. Everything documented. Everything searchable. Crime might become impossible. Like, no more murder or illegal dumping.