Better Vector Search for Long Documents: Chunking Inside Manticore Search

entrope

A lot of the article focuses on problems induced by a 512-token input limit. For example, one needs a lot more chunks with such a small input, especially with overlap. I realize that some embedding models do have input contexts that small, but 8K and 32K are fairly widely supported and reduce chunking-related problems. For languages like English, there's also usually a lot of redundancy within a text, so 512 tokens might not give a very clear indication of the context. Lots of documents have similar introductions (like "#include <foo.h>\n") that make short contexts and truncation particularly harmful. Also, "Nothing in the document past that point can ever be retrieved, and nothing anywhere told you." This is user-hostile behavior, even if they didn't want to admit to users that the auto-embedding support was poor. Finally, the paragraph later on about truncation being "what you already have" reads like Claude talking to the developer, not like a vendor talking to users. But sure, maybe this is a good default for a database searching page titles, chat logs and Xeets?

hn45e7pbij

Bigger context windows help but they don't remove the need to chunk. Embedding 8K tokens into one vector smears everything, retrieval quality drops even though nothing got truncated.

Chance-Device

Pretty interesting, I’m sure it will be useful for anyone who is rolling their own RAG.

mistrial9

BGE-M3 has an input window of 8,192 tokens