Attention is all you have

Onavo

Click bait title :/ I thought it's a machine learning article

jamesgill

"There’s one lesson the Tetris effect teaches us: whatever you focus on long enough will end up shaping your thoughts." Yes. And--change your thoughts, change your life: https://thinkhuman.com/change-your-thoughts-change-your-life...

alansaber

This is why I like books. No attempt at attention hijacking. Wheras every other modern app tries to claw your eyes out.

cube00

> You didn’t really have one big app that you could open and order it to entertain you. Instead, you had a few dozen of bookmarks to websites, each with a specific idea in mind. This overlooks how common custom homepages such as Lycos, Yahoo! and MSN were and how the browsers pushed these as their default home pages. While they may not be as addictive as "the algorithm" of today, they were still packed with clickbait images/links to attract your attention and ads to drain your wallet. MSN: https://web.archive.org/web/20021108094511/http://www.msn.co... My MSN: https://web.archive.org/web/20021107081016/http://my.msn.com...

markus_zhang

I think this needs a strategic change. Unless you have a clear cut life objective and you are really into it, everything else you try to improve are at most tactical wins that will be lost to time. And those small wins actually make the end frustration worse because you thought you won strategically this time. I’ll also going to declare that doom scrolling-ish working on non-impactful personal projects is as BAD as doom scrolling twitter.

aeturnum

On the social science side, The Ecology of Attention[1] talks about attention as an ecosystem and the final economic frontier for capitalism. It envisions a world where every moment of our attention is fought over by commercial entities, which feels pretty prescient at the moment. [1] https://www.perlego.com/book/1536286/the-ecology-of-attentio...

charcircuit

>Before recommendation algorithms where a thing, you had to decide what you would be doing on the computer. This is just the illusion of choice. Not only that attention was already being monetized. Digital advertising didn't start with algorithmic feeds.

daniel31x13

> Instead of picking what we want to see we let other people decide what is supposed to be good for us. 100% agree, and this is exactly why I disable any sort of algorithmic recommendations on the platforms I’m active on. I do this either through the app itself or by using those platforms on the web and hiding distracting elements with an extension like uBlock or AdGuard. My final feed consists only of channels/profiles I directly follow. Oh, and there’s also RSS… I really recommend everyone do the same. It really clears your head.

siriusastrebe

I think in the next five years the internet will change drastically. Walled gardens, invite only, and companies that verify you're a human (I.E. use government identification). There is now no way to tell if somebody online in a human or a robot. Even video/zoom/voice is no longer a distinguishable.

rvshchwl

I cut out Social Media earlier this year, and it's been one of the best decisions I've made. Part of why I started was remembering that we didn't have doom-scrolling apps before smartphones. The change has been tremendous since I've been trying to go back to more "intentional" media. When I find myself distracted and wanting to pick up my phone, I realize there isn't really anything on it for me to do and am forced to just put it away. So I've started getting into the habit of keeping a book on me wherever I go. I've read 4 books this year!

afinlayson

We don't have protection from attention hijacking algorithms the same way workers didn't have protection until unions became a thing. AI can do more for consumers than Unions ever could (because it'll be more uniform). Currently there's no motivation (monetary or otherwise) to make this tech easily available to the masses - and when it does the bad actors and dark pattern wizards will miss the good ole days when only the select few had access to these patterns.

ddaniel10

I really liked to read this. i had this idea in mind but its nice to be remind of it

econ

The Mosaic browser (1993) had full text history search. We then got a bookmark system that was every bit as terrible as a web directory. It stayed that way. The delicious search revenue made organizing websites uninteresting. That obscure website you enjoyed a decade ago but don't even remember, they had lots of traffic like you. No point updating or keeping it online. You can't have rss in Firefox but here is a Facebook like button in your address bar in stead. I've tried to maintain the bookmark menu but I rarely use it since everything is dead. Why aren't browsers storing a text version of the bookmark? Did people in 1993 have more resources than us? Should I be afraid it grows to a few GB over the decades? A good few dead websites have a backup some place but there is no automation to find it. If you had a string of text from a page you might be able to search for it. If the page found is highly similar we might automate the process to have alternative location for bookmarks with a nice warning dialog.

StilesCrisis

> Do you want to watch a video? YouTube knows you like cooking and art streams. But why not also recommend a few clips about the stock market bubble, global warming, and the war in Iran. I'm always fascinated when people claim YouTube pushes content like this. It's an extremely common take, but I don't think it's true. My experience has been that if I stop clicking something, the algorithm soon stops recommending it. It occasionally brings back a blast from the past--e.g. I watched a sumo competition once, and once in a blue moon it recommends another. But you can downvote bad recommendations, and I simply don't get recommendations for ideas I've never engaged with before. FWIW I'm not saying the algorithm is great. My feed is absolutely worthless right now, but it's all goofy Japanese content because one of my kids is extremely into that right now. There's zero political content because she isn't showing any interest in it. Heck, most of the stuff isn't even in English anymore.

danbush

I wrote [something extremely similar]( https://blog.scoopy.zone/posts/attention/ ) a bit ago. It is much harder to accomplish, but like the article says, you can still experience an Internet like the past.

tripleee

Peak internet was the brief period of time when it was available but we weren't permanently connected. It was an intentional decision to log on, do what you wanted to do, and then disconnect.

evo_9

As logic stands, you couldn't meet a man who's from the future But logic broke; as he appeared, he spoke about the future [Pre-Chorus] "We're not going to make it," he explained how the end will come "You and me were never meant to be part of the future" [Chorus] All we have is now All we've ever had is now All we have is now All we'll ever have is now [Verse 2] I noticed that he had a watch and hat that looked familiar He was me, from a dimension torn free of the future [Pre-Chorus] "We're not going to make it," he explained how the end will come "You and me were never meant to be part of the future" [Chorus] All we have is now All we've ever had is now All we have is now All we'll ever have is now Flaming Lips - All We Have Is Now

seydor

the most intentional internet was made by people, not algorithms now that we have cheap spam filtering, why don't we go back to forums

inshard

I use SelfControl for Mac and set the down time to around 15 days. No Youtube no news sites etc. Except HN. It's helped a lot, after a week you can notice measurable change in attention and habit and productivity. SelfControl lets you add 48 hrs to your blocked time repeatedly, so you can get to a 15 day mark pretty easily through repeated mouse clicks.

jolt42

I don't think social media is inherently bad. For me, the measure is whether I'm wallowing in consuming rather than doing. Although, yes, it's easy to get lost in consuming, doing takes much more intent/attention.