Apple Watch Series 12

zsoltkacsandi

Disappointing. Instead of making battery life better that would benefit all of the Apple Watch users, here are some random AI features that most of you never gonna usa, and some new colors.

sccxy

Moved to Garmin. Maybe less powerful but battery life is the most important feature for me.

constantinum

Staying with Garmin just for amazingly long battery life… and instinct series has solar too

minimaxir

Apple Watch is hitting diminishing returns feature-wise. I'm happy with my Series 11 but "it has more accurate heart sensors" isn't really revolutionary, and I believe some of the Apple Intelligence features will be backported anyways. With fast charging, battery life hasn't been an issue; I just put it on the charger while in the shower and that does the trick.

Gshaheen

Switched from apple to garmin to coros, not looking back. Coros blows everyone out of the water from a user experience standpoint, and they offer excellent value.

robviren

On what legal footing does this recap feature stand? In fairly certain there are a non-zero amount of laws prohibiting audio recording without consent. And this wrist mounted always listening thing is likely to end up in a lot of places it should not. Probably burried in the end user agreement that it is 100% the users fault.

kccqzy

The main reason I stopped using an Apple Watch is the lackluster battery life; in this series Apple claims 10 hours of battery life for outdoor workouts but without an iPhone. How is that realistic? If I’m going out for a hourlong run perhaps I don’t bring my iPhone, but I’m doing a multihour outdoor workout I would surely bring my phone, and certainly the extra Bluetooth communication would decrease battery life. It’s a silly metric.

vavooom

I can't imagine not having a Garmin watch! Battery life and ability to forget I have it on constantly is a main feature for me

vrosas

This thread is just PR people from other watch brands astroturfing.

hakunin

I think Apple Watch is a great device for wearing to gym, to sleep, and somewhat during the day + occasional quick text reply maybe, and otherwise forgetting all about it, because the true value lies in what's being collected in the Health app. Stop trying to do things on it imo. Maybe there are a couple of useful things you can do, or if you're a runner, maybe you can leave your phone at home. I don't have these use cases, but it's valuable to me even without them. My recommendation is: buy the cheapest material one every few years. I only ever had 2 and 5 (upgraded due to always on screen), and am considering to finally upgrade to 12.

corvad

Wanted to look at the study's data, but the link seems to be broken. https://www.apple.com/HRAccuracy/

adithyassekhar

My left wrist had formed an indent where I wore my se3. It was not worn tight, I tried different straps. In 6 months it looks like the tissue underneath has mostly moved away. I can feel my bone when I touch it. My right arm by contrast looks full like a regular arm. Looked up apple watch indent reddit and I saw much more serious cases after years of use. I’ve worn a samsung watch for a year it didn’t leave a mark, casio watches, none. Until apple fixes that weird dome shape never wearing one again. That watch is staying in the box it came in. Edit: There seems to be people promoting other brands in this thread. Just want to make clear I do not recommend the samsung one either. Don’t want to be labelled as such. Just get a regular watch. Wear it when you go outside and take it off when inside. You were never using the mostly inaccurate health data anyway.

ProfessorLayton

The audio note taking feature is extremely off-putting to me and can't believe it was so prominently showcased. It's made even worse by the fact that only the newest watches support this, but their external designs are unchanged from past ones, so there's no way to tell who's always listening to everything (I have an Ultra 2, likely my last one). Is this something most people want?? At the very least I'd appreciate a notification like the unknown airtag thing to tell me I'm being eavesdropped.

tills13

The best thing I ever did was buy an e-paper display watch (pebble) which lasts weeks not hours.

jjcob

Looks like Apple Watch Series 12 still doesn't have dual frequency GPS. Makes it a hard sell for someone who wants to use it as a running watch.

bstsb

oh come on, i bought my series 11 last week! i'm going to miss out on all those amazing new features, like... an improved heart rate variability measurement

juancn

I wish they would make one without all the health crap. Drop the sensors and add more battery. I only really care about a few things (besides telling the time): - notifications - unlocking a Mac on proximity - Apple Pay - alarms - skipping a song I couldn't care less about all the health sensing stuff, I have to take it out when I work out because it's either in the way or would break.

akmarinov

I’m in Europe with an Ultra 2 There’s no chance we get the AI features so those don’t factor in at all I guess it’s a bit more frequent sensors for the rest of the world? Not very compelling to upgrade.

nkotov

I wish they made it stupid thin. I wear my Whoop everyday, even sleep with it on. I could never do the same with an Apple Watch due to it's size but also due to the notification anxiety.

ck2

they keep doubling down on HRV metrics except optical HRV at the wrist is garbage it cannot even measure when there is any movement you'd think someone would come up with the technology to use the skin contact as a single lead ECG without requiring a second contact point by the other arm (or leg) guess that's a generation or two away suunto has the right idea with their tiny movesense ECG and it's even open-source