Apple proposes to take a 15% cut of purchases made outside the App Store

bell-cot

Daydream: US Gov't says "Sure, go for it! BTW, we'll now be talking an extra 15% cut of all transactions that you do using our dollars."

kraussvonespy

C'mon Apple. Ease off on the app store fees, let innovation blossom again, maybe use some of that momentum to encourage game developers to use the Mac platform for gaming. Consider throwing some extra GPU cores in future M<whatever> chips and manufacture cheap Mac Minis / Macbook Neos that come preoptimized for Steam (and other) games. My ultimate goal: I'd really like to be able to play modern games on a laptop that doesn't also act as a makeshift space heater / 110db white noise generator.

bellowsgulch

Fuck Apple.

randyrand

They should continue this line of thinking even further. Start charging people for all facets of their life. Use access to their iPhone as leverage.

satvikpendem

15% is still insane. Wasn't it supposed to be a cost based fee based on the latest ruling, not a flat percentage?

ebilgenius

I guess I just don't understand the indefensible greed on display here from Apple. If Apple's App Store & development software truly were still world-class & easy to build/rely on then at least one could defend a "quality tax" of sorts. That'd still be bad, but it's something. As it stands currently, with the quality of their software & App Store benefits they should be discounting all fees by like ~50% at least.

kotaKat

What was it, Epic charges 63% in Fortnite starting Jan 1 2027? https://www.fortnite.com/news/fortnite-developers-will-soon-... I'm done putting up with this stupid pointless fight at this point so some slimy greasy developer can prey on kids some more with stupid cosmetic skins for a video game. Has Spotify kept complaining now that they've piled on the AI slop and stopped paying artists for their music and bragged they've got over 300 million paid sheep? Nope.

thewebguyd

> "Apple’s position is that it should be permitted to charge fees on in-app purchases made by users of its devices as a means to recoup its investments in the tools, technology, and services that allow it to maintain its App Store and software." That is such a ridiculous argument. Next they'll want a cut of everything you buy from Amazon using Safari, or any bank transfer you do via your banking app just because you happen to use an Apple device. Give me a break. Mind you, this is about purchase made using "external links" inside of apps. Not even Apple's IAP infrastructure at all. Apple does zero here, the developer in this instance is offloading to their own payment stack. Apple deserves nothing more than 0% commission here.

irq-1

Auto manufacturers should take 15% of purchases made outside the vehicle, and 30% of purchases made inside the vehicle eco-system .

jimrandomh

Do iOS users realize how much they're paying Apple? I feel like if, every time they bought something, users got a receipt with a line item showing that 30% of the money was going to Apple and not to the company they thought they were buying from, a lot of them would jump ship to Android.

forest32

Apple probably hates that they can’t charge 30% tax on all transactions done on Safari. It is a travesty that free-loading scumbag users can buy stuff on the web without Apple getting a cut.

otterley

Looks like Google's already doing this for apps downloaded from Google Play: > The company also compared its link-out fees to those on Google Play, which charges 20% link-out rates for standard apps, 15% for apps in special programs, and 10% for subscription renewals, noting that Epic Games had agreed to these rates.

textrunmax

One simple rule or law could fix this: Every hardware manufacturer that ships an OS must allow the installation of an alternative OS from any third party, with the same access to the hardware as the original OS and all the necessary technical documentation. If the original OS can be updated over the air, users must also be able to install alternative operating systems over the air. This would result in real competition across all our devices: iPhones, smart fridges, John Deere tractors, and so on. And it would force manufacturers to focus on building better products instead of using anticompetitive practices to squeeze more money out of their locked-in customers.

redeeman

and I propose that I take a 15% cut of all apple devices sold outside of apple stores. this should be super fair right? (of course one cant even fault them 100% since vast majority of people have been conditioned to think stealing more than that from everyone is 100% legit)

scrubs

Wow! Bold! That's bold leadership, Apple. Respect. In fact it's so bold I'm going to take my own 15%. Oh, me too. /s

mthoms

> Apple’s position is that it should be permitted to charge fees on in-app purchases made by users of its devices as a means to recoup its investments in the tools, technology, and services that allow it to maintain its App Store and software This framing is so bloody disingenuous it’s vomit inducing.

1vuio0pswjnm7

Incredible greed

gsky

I used to say that Apple and Google are evil. Turns out i was less wrong.