Apple opens the door to a nightmare world of always-listening tech

justinclift

An always-on listening watch seems like a walking lawsuit target by anyone around. At the very least, workplaces will probably not find it amusing "you're recording all of your colleagues, all day, every day?!?!?". Significant others... well, that'll be a conversation. :D

tencentshill

They're competing with accelerationists who intend to release these products without any privacy or ethics at all. I'd say we're lucky Apple was first to market. What are the implications when everyone, everywhere is recording at all times, but the data may also be going TO anyone, anywhere? It would cause a huge cultural change to say the least.

Foxhuls

I’m not a fan of where this tech is heading, especially when looking at all of the companies who are pushing for it. I do think it’s somewhat misleading to say that Apple is opening the door when we’re already seeing things like the glasses from meta, the upcoming (maybe now released) glasses from Google, and the plethora of AI powered devices and pendants already existing and I constantly get served ads for. I believe pocket and plaud are the two I see the most. We’re seemingly getting closer to living in a black mirror episode every day.

HelloUsername

"Audio Intelligence features are private by design, combining hardware, software, and services to protect user privacy in a way that only Apple can. These features do not create or store audio recordings, and raw audio used for processing is completely inaccessible to the operating systems, apps, the user, or Apple. By design, Audio Intelligence features do not identify and attribute speakers, to protect the privacy of both the user and those around them. Siri Recap produces a brief, high-level summary of conversations — not a transcript — and is designed to exclude sensitive information like financial information or government-assigned identifiers. Live Rewind text snippets and Siri Recap summaries are end-to-end encrypted in the Siri app with iCloud syncing, and are not accessible even by Apple. Read more about how Audio Intelligence protects privacy:" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49632685 Also related: "Dystopian Surveillance Is Becoming a Reality" sep.2026 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49715934 101 comments

0x4e

Wonder how it could turn out in states like FL where consent is needed for recording conversations.

MetaverseClub

wait, who opens the door? Id prefer a privacy-care company over META, OAI, GOOG, etc. misleading title!

totalforge

I’d be interested to know what the policy is on Watch 12 at Apple. A transcribing and summarizing watch in confidential meetings seems contrary to their security policy.

goofypugs

Aren’t we already in that world?

l0ng1nu5

Let's be real, they've been doing this for years ever since they introduced siri. By now everyone's had an experience similar to having a conversation about something without searching or typing anything into a digital device and then magically starting to receive targeted advertising about said thing.

pixl97

There are different science fiction books that talk about high tech 'dust' or other micromachines that otherwise exist almost everywhere in the world monitoring everything. While the exact imagined implementations may not work, I can't help but believe that micro technology could spell the end of most privacy. Humans simply exist on the wrong scale. Our voice, our actions all leave a large amount of entropy in the world to be picked up and monitored by things far smaller than we are and fed into larger networks.

insane_dreamer

you mean like Alexa and Google Assistant devices have done for years? At least Apple's features are opt-in, unlike most others which are opt-out

blini-kot

of course the bulwark of this intrusion is apple

uncomputation

> The S11 chip uses a lightweight AI model to determine whether speech is occurring nearby. This model doesn’t transcribe or record anything. It simply detects whether a conversation has started. If a conversation is detected, audio flows into a protected buffer inside the Secure Exclave on the S11 chip. It does record audio. A microphone is constantly receiving sound waves and writing them in a digital format in a particular audio file encoding as inputs to a model. That is a recording. I don’t see how this passes legal and doesn’t expose them to class action for false advertising.