Anthropic's Claude Mythos isn't a sentient super-hacker, it's a sales pitch

thewhitetulip

I read that it is 5x costly. Could that be the reason for the marketing?

nikolay

Yup! It's so scary good we're not gonna sell it - change our minds... by investing gazillions of dollars. Well, one thing is for sure: if it exists, Palantir will be using it!

Legend2440

>Many of the "thousands" of bugs and vulnerabilities it found are in older software, or are impossible to exploit. So? Modern software is designed with a defense in depth model, so it often requires chaining multiple vulnerabilities to get a successful exploit. But individual vulnerabilities still need finding and fixing because people might find vulnerabilities in the other isolation layers later. I swear every time an LLM does something useful, the usual band of skeptics bends over backwards trying to invent reasons to dismiss it.

solenoid0937

When these models come out and/or the responsible disclosure period elapses, I wonder if the naysayers will admit they were wrong, or if they'll just continue naysaying the latest bit of news about AI. In my view the naysayers always simply been moving the goalposts, and never admit when they were wrong. "AI just produces slop" -> "AI can't write useful code" -> "AI can't take SWE jobs" -> [we are here]

wolttam

And this attitude is how you get compromised in the near future. No reason to expect capabilities of models are going to stop.

simianwords

In other news I hear "OpenAI backs Illinois bill that would limit when AI labs can be held liable" and people are losing their minds over it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47717587 And here we learn that Mythos is not a big deal. Are there people who believe both? One day I hear it is all a marketing pitch, another day I hear it can literally end earth so it should be regulated. How do I reconcile this?

Kim_Bruning

As usual it's a matter of degree. Opus is also not the worst at hacking things either. Sometimes it hacks things 'by accident' you see. If Mythos is better at it, then at some point, yeah, I can see how that might start to become a problem. Especially running unsupervised.

ergocoder

I still remember when Sam tweeted about how gpt-5 was so smart it scared him. Then, I only switched from gpt-4 to gpt-5 because the price was cheaper lolz