America's Expanding Domestic Surveillance

SilverElfin

Age verification is part of this. Submit your IDs to use AI. Now they know all about you. All done for “safety” but we know that’s an excuse. https://reclaimthenet.org/senate-panel-backs-guard-act-ai-ag...

2ndorderthought

The time to resist against these policies and technologies was 2-5 years ago. Every single person in the US's future, safety, rights and freedom is currently at stake. There is no more time left to wait and see how things play out.

google234123

Hopefully this will translate into less petty crime- most theft now goes unpunished. I want to live in a society where bikes aren't stolen

JumpCrisscross

What’s the fix? What’s a simple rule change that would, at the very least, take these data out of law enforcement’s hands outside the most-necessary situations?

dw_arthur

A surveillance state was always inevitable once wireless networking, GPS, and cameras were ubiquitous. If you say this isn't true, show me anywhere in the world with these technologies that is not headed down this path.

vostrocity

One idea I haven't seen much discussion on is "provably beneficial surveillance" [1], which builds off of Nick Bostrom's vulnerable world hypothesis. It seems like the best path forward. >We can turn that conventional wisdom on its head, by reframing it as a question: is it possible to do surveillance and consequent policing in a way that is (a) compatible with or enhances liberal values, i.e., improving the welfare of all, except those undermining the common good; and also (b) sufficient to prevent catastrophic threats to society? I call this possibility Provably Beneficial Surveillance. It's a concept expanding on an old tradition of ideas, including search warrants, due process, habeas corpus, and Madisonian separation of powers, all of which help improve the balance of power between institutions and individuals. In particular, all those ideas help enable surveillance in service of safety, while also taking steps to prevent abuses of that power. 1. https://michaelnotebook.com/optimism/index.html

dsign

Oh but it will get worse. Legislation to force companies to install survtech in their devices/apps is already being pushed left and right. We are still screaming a little about it, but I think it's a matter of time before it gets normalized and the state goes for the next level, which will be to prosecute individuals who try to evade the surveillance net. The recent case with GrapheneOS[^1], while still far from being an example of it, it is sufficient to inspire some legislators... [^1] https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-organized-crim...

cmrx64

and soon from space? radio engineering breakdown of starlink radar capabilities, it’s a pretty impressive bird if you were designing it only for that: https://youtu.be/jbp3kdJZ1_A

givemeethekeys

Fear sells. Everyone is afraid of getting sued and being denied insurance. The answer is cameras! Dividing people to vilify each other over race, religion, gender, ethnicity and even politics is incredibly profitable. Once they're afraid of their neighbors, they'll happily pay someone to protect them at every turn.

metalman

Land of the fee.

luotuoshangdui

Now you are beginning to feel the pain?

juliusceasar

Somehow they seems to miss the criminals at the top...

mannanj

I know someone who claims they were experimented on by an agency. Who do you reach out to for help if that was you? Most people don't take you seriously or think you need mental help.

caycep

you know it's bad when even ol' Rupert is worried

redanddead

This is a global phenomenon, not just the US. It's also accelerating, because precedent in one Commonwealth or EU country spreads very quickly. It feels like lawmaking in general, legislation, regulation is accelerating globally.

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