Americans are angry about data centers. Politicians are feeling the pressure

ares623

Who cares about pressure when you can now receive enough compensation to never worry about getting re-elected ever again. You can even fuck off to some safe haven country to live the rest of your life in peace and comfort.

lazzlazzlazz

It's incredible how much traction the completely fabricated anti-data center propaganda has gotten, given it is false in all dimensions (uses hardly any water, decreases local energy bills, don't make noise). The interest groups opposing them will do anything, including harming economic growth, jobs, great products, and life-saving research — as long as it kneecaps their rivals.

fleventynine

I think there's room for win-win solutions here; the cost of placating the locals is a rounding error compared to the cost of these data centers. 1. Local governments can require that if the data center peak load is 1.0GW, they must provision transmission and generation capacity for the local region of 1.2GW; the extra power can be given to the neighbors at substantial discount. 2. Construct a public swimming complex nearby, heated with waste data center heat. 3. Local governments can enforce strict limits on environmental noise at the property boundary. I've personally stood right next to a 150MW-class datacenter and experienced sound levels less than traffic from a typical suburban 4-lane street; making the datacenter quieter than any other industrial use is a choice the builder can make if they have the right incentives. Setup directional microphones around the perimeter, and fine them $25,000 per minute per dB above the agreed threshold. Distribute the fines to the neighbors. Failure to pay promptly means the sheriff shuts down the power. All of these options are far cheaper than launching the data center into space...

jmclnx

All the data centers do is: 1. use all the water 2. Increase electric costs but a large amount 3. Increase noise in the neighborhood If the above was false, no one would care. Plus these data centers provides almost no jobs, so there is no benefit to the community. Granted there is more tax revenue, but the people paying taxes do not see their tax burden go down. So the wonder why ??

JimsonYang

I mean Michigan really loves it when something gives jobs, so as long as the data center actually enacts on it then I suspect opposition will go away That said, we've seen data center projects often employ much less jobs than expected. I know Core Scientific when they did a data center in like Texas they employed like 10 people not 200

everdrive

Populism is on the rise, and nearly everyone is discontent. The discontent has gotten so out of hand that much of it is quite ridiculous, but it's serious enough that it must be dealt with. Given the past 20 years, I expect politicians to completely fumble this easy layup and find ways to force data centers anyhow.

dehrmann

People are actually angry about inflation and a sense of a stagnant labor market. Data centers and AI play into both those fears.

duxup

We’ve been visiting data centers for decades… now it appears to be a hot potato. It’s a bit surreal.

kingstnap

I really don't think it has anything to do with the datacenters as a building. It's more that AI has been kinda poison pilled in the minds of the people in terms of the negative emotions they feel regarding: * Billionaires * Job Loss * AI slop floods Ultimately they feel the need to be activists and they do so by being NIMBYs because you can have a ton of influence in municipal politics.

TheAceOfHearts

There is a weird sense of entitlement that AI data centers should be allowed to get built anywhere, but I don't think the positive case has been made that it's actually that much of a net positive in many locations. The US is massive and if AI data centers are such a positive boon then it should be easy to find a place where they're actually welcome. Unlike traditional data centers where latency might be relevant, most AI data centers aren't latency sensitive so the default plan should be to build them far from major population centers. Just buy up a massive chunk of empty land in the middle of nowhere and drop all the data centers there. There is some misinformation around resource usage, but most data center constructions aren't being fully candid and transparent with their expected resource usage either. I think the key issue is that many major constructions haven't built any trust with local communities nor have they listened to people's concerns, but they feel entitled to force through their projects anyway. If you think that these AI data centers are great and incredibly beneficial, go advocate for your local government to bring construction to wherever it is that you live. Let people sort themselves out based on their interests.